The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II

[HappySkeptic]

Keeps pushing the notion Trumps a king he's not 

Trump has many of the powers of a King, the chief one being the power of Pardon.  It makes all things de-facto legal (in the federal sphere) for his lackeys.

The U.S. Constitution is a very weak document that gives little protection against a tyrant, and little protection of human rights.  That is being exploited right now.

[Mr Greene]

Given his stated intent to annex an empire the title would be Emperor...

[arewethereyet]

Keeps pushing the notion Trumps a king he's not 

Trump has many of the powers of a King, the chief one being the power of Pardon.  It makes all things de-facto legal (in the federal sphere) for his lackeys.

The U.S. Constitution is a very weak document that gives little protection against a tyrant, and little protection of human rights.  That is being exploited right now.

If Congress and SCOTUS had any backbone at all this stuff wouldn't be happening like it is.  They are either afraid of Trump or are bought and paid for.

Checks and balances don't work when two of the three arms are limp and useless.

[Angrboda]

[Thumpalumpacus]

I am shocked, but not surprised at all, that this has to be told to some people.
On the other side it explains why the US version of democracy is in danger: too few to support it, and apparently too few to understand it. How is someone like this supposed to support a system he does not even understand.

On the plus side, the way you always can claim to just have followed orders after poop has hit the fan.

Welcome to the 1930s re enactments.

Explain to me how ANY direct order from the President to the commanders, if the operations are off U.S. soil are illegal under U.S. law?  What law does the President have to abide by?  International treaties?  The President has the power to decide which treaties to obey and which not to obey.  The U.S. considers its Constitution supreme, and that it supersedes all international law.

The UCMJ and international treaties are a good place to start. America is actually a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, which by our signature and Constitution means that that treaty has the force of law upon the US military, by our Constitution.

The Congress has essentially given the President unchecked military power.  Theoretically the Congress should approve of a war, but that hasn't happened in my lifetime.  They rubber-stamp military action after the fact, but the President has 90 days to whatever he likes.  Plus, the President can defy Congress and say "Just try to impeach me - you won't".

No argument here, the Congress has over the last 60 years abdicated its responsibilty.

There is no such thing as an illegal military order by the President if the activity happens outside of U.S. soil.  Prove me wrong, and don't cite international law.  That has no effect in the U.S.

The Geneva Convention has the force of law in America via our Constitution:

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution of the United States (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the "supreme Law of the Land", and thus take priority over any conflicting state laws.[1] It provides that state courts are bound by, and state constitutions subordinate to, the supreme law.[2] However, federal statutes and treaties must be within the parameters of the Constitution;[3] that is, they must be pursuant to the federal government's enumerated powers, and not violate other constitutional limits on federal power, such as the Bill of Rights—of particular interest is the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that the federal government has only those powers that are delegated to it by the Constitution.[4] It is the responsibility of the United States Supreme Court in that case to exercise the power of judicial review: the ability to invalidate a statute for violating a provision of the Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_...20disputed.

[emphasis added- Thump]

That means we are beholden to the international rules of warfare. Not that we've been very diligent about observing such. Even Calley got what, house arrest?

When it is 100% legal for the President to order a nuclear strike, how can anything less than that be illegal?

Your first part, when missiles are flying at us, your second part isn't really clear. Less than what?

[Rev. Rye]

For added context, remember that the Supreme Court has issued a decision (9-0, no less) demanding that Trump return Kilmar Alberto Garcia from the El Salvador gulag. Also bear in mind that El Salvador is practically a client state for the US; hell, its official currency is the US Dollar. Unless the office of El Salvadoran President (and the US President) is legitimately powerless, there is no good reason that Bukele cannot just release him. We are at the Rubicon and Trump has just crossed it.

[Thumpalumpacus]

For added context, remember that the Supreme Court has issued a decision (9-0, no less) demanding that Trump return Kilmar Alberto Garcia from the El Salvador gulag. Also bear in mind that El Salvador is practically a client state for the US; hell, its official currency is the US Dollar. Unless the office of El Salvadoran President (and the US President) is legitimately powerless, there is no good reason that Bukele cannot just release him. We are at the Rubicon and Trump has just crossed it.

This is what I've been saying for a few months now; a decision will come down and Trump will channel Andrew Jackson and ask how the Court will enforce its ruling. This is not about one person legally in America, illegally deported. This is about Trump breaking down the separation of powers.

It's not a random chance or happenstance.

Also, Pammy's full of shit, and the staging is sickening.

[Fake Messiah]

Trump is demanding Harvard become a vassal institution. There will be no free speech or academic freedom rights, and there will be ideological litmus tests for who gets hired or admitted.

Not only do these demands ignore the process for adjudicating alleged Title VI violations, they are fundamentally at odds with the First Amendment.

The feds cannot condition federal funding on a private university giving up its First Amendment rights.

https://apnews.com/article/harvard-trump...a5c476e18d

[Rev. Rye]

This is what I've been saying for a few months now; a decision will come down and Trump will channel Andrew Jackson and ask how the Court will enforce its ruling. This is not about one person legally in America, illegally deported. This is about Trump breaking down the separation of powers.

It's not a random chance or happenstance.

And we are fucking there.

[Nanny]

Yup open defiance of the courts. Dumb Donnie wants to send convicted US citizens to the gulag, too. There is no irony.

The experiment is about to be over.