John's Gospel and "The Jews"

[reverendjeremiah]

Right, Jews are not Arabs

Jews and Arabs are semitic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

I understood that they evolved from the two sons of abraham israel and ishmael??

And Semitic was a linguistic demographic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages not so much a genetic one.

It pretty much means they are closely related in linguistics and , secondarily through tradition.

If the language is related, how close will the genetics then be?

[KichigaiNeko]

Good point...

[Godscreated]

Right, Jews are not Arabs

Well then youre ignorant because Israel is in the middle east and judaism still isnt a race. Sorry geography and anatomy isnt your thing.

and no I do not see Jesus as a white dude with blue eyes. You sound like a dork, I've heard all your ravings time and again, you should come up with some new and original material if you want me to respond to your post, however I doubt that's possible for you to accomplish. You should learn to think for yourself, new material is always more enjoyable than reading the same old material over and over.

You have debunked nothing. Just ramble on with the same dumb things I've heard to many times.
lHahaha did you just tell an atheist to think for himself? the kettle calling the pot black maybe? youre the one basing your reality on ancient primitive mythology instead of logic and reason from people who actually give a shit about reality..ya know? scientists? who arent going to accept any old bullshit story and will investigate, you wouldnt have your cell phone or computer without science. Without rational people dragging the religious people into a rational era of technology and science then we'd still be in the dark ages.. And excuse me but I've never talked to you in my life so dont pretend youve heard everything I have to say. Youre postulating special pleading for your religion and when you cant handle it you turn it to the person youre talking to, its pathetic man.

What gives you the right to accuse me or my church of scaring children with hell, we do not believe that is anyway to teach children, so when you have unfounded accusations keep them to yourself and stew on them till your head explodes.

Dude, cmon, are you not a Christian? you will threaten random atheists on an atheist forum but youre saying you dont say that to people at your church? or that you wouldnt teach your kids about your made up hell? Whats the point of your religion then if you cant threaten people? your religion is superfluous to understanding reality and if you dont have some supernatural stories to tell to scientifically retarded people they wont buy into your bullshit.

Natural selection is an obvious occurrence in animals, adaptation in animals is important to adjust to natural occurrences in nature, such as food, weather and ect. Man has a brain that allows him to adapt through reason and experience. Animals evolving into entirely new species is not a theory that I would ever ascribe to, it makes no sense and is unfounded.

You cant say Evolution is not a sound theory then priase Natural Selection. You are hypocrite by picking and choosing like you probably do with bible verses too. And are you not aware that when you become immune to a disease or when you because immune to a drug that is actually a form of Evolution? you have some learning to do. Like I said, Reality is the thing that no matter how much you dont like it, doesnt go away.

Again I say that this is an adult site and I have expressed what I believe to adults, so if you can not handle adult situations without shouting or drawing undue attention to yourself then you might be better off just reading the post.

Yes, mostly adult atheists who you pathetically try to convert with your lame little threat of pascal's wager that any atheist could debunk in 20 seconds.

[Godscreated]

Right, Jews are not Arabs

Jews and Arabs are semitic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

I understood that they evolved from the two sons of abraham israel and ishmael??

And Semitic was a linguistic demographic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages not so much a genetic one.

Abraham did not have a son named Israel, his son's name was Issac. Issac married a women named Rebekah, she was from the city of Nahor in the land of Mesopotamia, this is where his father Abraham lived before God led him to Canaan. Ishmael's mother was an Egyptian and so was Ishmael's wife. Ishmael and his sons settled in southeast Egypt and the Arabian Peninsula. The bloodline of Ishmael and Issac were very soon diluted. I do not think that Ishmael was the father of the Arabs.

[Minimalist]

Godschild Wrote: Right, Jews are not Arabs

G-C you can wave your fucking magic story book around all you like. You just look like an asshole ( customary for you) when science has already decided the issue.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...003653.htm

For, according to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, and they all share a common genetic lineage that stretches back thousands of years.

[KichigaiNeko]

Godschild Wrote: Right, Jews are not Arabs

G-C you can wave your fucking magic story book around all you like. You just look like an asshole ( customary for you) when science has already decided the issue.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...003653.htm

For, according to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, and they all share a common genetic lineage that stretches back thousands of years.

That's what I understood to be the case!! Along with the face that these "Jewish people" were nothing more than Canaanites

[Minimalist]

It is a meaningless distinction. They were all Canaanites but they splintered into various political entities. Judah was a latecomer in that respect.

[Godscreated]

Godschild Wrote: Right, Jews are not Arabs

G-C you can wave your fucking magic story book around all you like. You just look like an asshole ( customary for you) when science has already decided the issue.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...003653.htm

For, according to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, and they all share a common genetic lineage that stretches back thousands of years.

I'm sure my genetics could be traced back to Ireland and Germany however, I'm an American, period, please stop showing me your stupidity it's gross.

[Minimalist]

Germany I believe....you act like a fucking nazi book burner.

Read them. Don't burn them.

[reverendjeremiah]

Right, Jews are not Arabs

Jews and Arabs are semitic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

I understood that they evolved from the two sons of abraham israel and ishmael??

And Semitic was a linguistic demographic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages not so much a genetic one.

Abraham did not have a son named Israel, his son's name was Issac. Issac married a women named Rebekah, she was from the city of Nahor in the land of Mesopotamia, this is where his father Abraham lived before God led him to Canaan. Ishmael's mother was an Egyptian and so was Ishmael's wife. Ishmael and his sons settled in southeast Egypt and the Arabian Peninsula. The bloodline of Ishmael and Issac were very soon diluted. I do not think that Ishmael was the father of the Arabs.

Care to produce contemporary evidence outside of the bible that Abraham even existed. Then, once you do that, could you produce contemporary evidence outside of the bible that his sons, wife, lovers, whatever, all existed and did what you say they did.


Until then, your posts on this topic will be ignored as mythology.

We want REAL facts here GC. Not some bullcrap you pulled out of your butt, or that you are repeating from a book of myths.

Put up or shut up.