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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 12:08 pm
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 12:27 pm
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Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 12:51 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2012 at 1:02 pm by walknh2o.)
(January 31, 2012 at 2:08 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: wal-h2o Wrote:By the way, I had near death experience,so most of my knowledge came from that experienced.And many more episodes of astral projections.
So you reckon you "Graduated from cognitive therapy only 5 months ago?? So now you have found a "god" to worship??
I would suggest that you still need therapy my friend......you are still along way from rationality.
Correction: yes,I graduated and no I found no god to worship.
But I can now managed my PTSD problems, trading punches with angry atheists and remains "calm" shows a much diffrent me.
I am not in the "God tree" bunch, I am an independent thinker.
If there is or not , it is not my problem anymore.That makes me "ahead" of both argumentive bunch. 
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Yes,live a good life.
The religion of "there is and there is no" was past history for me.
I am more in tuned with the Annunaki /Sumerian history.At least not too many will be arguing about for it was not a "mainstream" history book topics.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 1:47 pm
(January 31, 2012 at 10:25 am)Faith No More Wrote: Nah, I don't know much beyond it's total shit. I've read a couple of sites where people claimed they could teach you to do it and it was utter garbage and, only the most moronic, slow, dimwitted, people would fall for that.
Hey, thats my wife your talking about!!!
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 2:24 pm
"cognitive therapy" works for me, I survived "atheist forum".......now I can try shopping in Wal-Mart and stay there more than 15 minutes and then the Mall will be next place to test my healing.Goodbye everybody,be cool now.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 2:36 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2012 at 2:41 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
(January 31, 2012 at 10:46 am)walknh2o Wrote: Another "closed mind", a handicapped for the advancement of humans. 
This coming from a man who refuses to discuss his point. You are doing nothing but making statements, which is not what an open minded person does.
Is it just me, or is it the closed minded ones always running around claiming everyone ELSE is closed minded.
An open minded person asks questions and admits when he is wrong. An open minded person doesnt consider "personal experience" to be universal as an argument.
(January 31, 2012 at 10:51 am)Faith No More Wrote: (January 30, 2012 at 11:51 pm)Hitchslap Wrote: Wel...ummm...I can debate you on Mr.Bungle.
Have they gotten better or worse as time has gone by?
Overall better, 'Disco Volante' was not as good as the self-titled album, but 'California' was a masterpiece beyond anything they had ever done
Im not sure. I mean, I enjoyed the "boxy" and tightness of the bungle album (the one with no name". Disco Volante was excelent, mind you that I do agree, but its like the were missing something. It was like they were doing sound just for the sake of sound, and not really looking deeper into the emotions tied to the sound - if you can understand what I am saying.
Callifornia was rather good as well, but it seemed to be a small step lower on the "skills" department and focused more on singing.
First album = A+++
Second album = B+
Third Album = B
All three were great, but its like they are slowly losing their edge.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 3:14 pm
(January 31, 2012 at 2:36 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Im not sure. I mean, I enjoyed the "boxy" and tightness of the bungle album (the one with no name". Disco Volante was excelent, mind you that I do agree, but its like the were missing something. It was like they were doing sound just for the sake of sound, and not really looking deeper into the emotions tied to the sound - if you can understand what I am saying.
Yes, Disco Volante was missing something, and considering none of their music is easily accessible, it was by far the hardest to get into.
reverendjeremiah Wrote:Callifornia was rather good as well, but it seemed to be a small step lower on the "skills" department and focused more on singing.
This I really don't understand, because even though there were a few songs with simple structure, i.e. retrovertigo, most of the album is highly complex and takes plenty of skill just to keep op with the changing tempos. Here's a video, but I wish it gave a better example of complexity, but it never really shows what the whole band is doing at one time.
reverendjeremiah Wrote:First album = A+++
Second album = B+
Third Album = B
First album = A-
Second = B-
Third = A+
If we continue this will the mods please use their power to split this off.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 3:19 pm
(January 30, 2012 at 9:49 pm)walknh2o Wrote: (January 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm)Blam! Wrote: Americans can be atheists? Of course they can if they simply don't believe in deity. So what is your point, anyway?
They are still dependent to the mighty natural diety ,the dollar bills with religious symbols and text, yes they can be atheists, but what kind?
What defines a Christian that is dumb and blind? If he/she is carrying a bible and a cross necklace.
Can a real atheist carry a "GOD" text and be a real living atheist?
Not in my book, sorry, no neutral nor for convenience only atheist. 
I guess the dipshit walknh2o is gone now, but just in case he's still around, I'm sure that he would agree that no true Christian can use American currency and not be a hypocrite, especially since the bills are rife with "Satanic" symbols:
Quote:This is the Great Seal of the United States of America. It was designed by the Freemasons and contains a mass of symbolism that the profane (non masons) are not to understand. This article will once and for all prove that the Seal is a Masonic design. Have you ever asked the question “Why is there a Pyramid on our $1 note?” The religion of Freemasonry and some of it's mysteries have descended from ancient Babylon whose mysteries descended from ancient Egypt. The Great Pyramid has of old been a fascination of Freemasons. It is a pagan temple of Satan worship.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20i...dollar.htm
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Quite possibly THE best song on the album. I cant say how much that bass player has inspired my own bass playing from the very moment I heard his style. Fucking phenominal
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 31, 2012 at 6:09 pm
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Quote:"cognitive therapy" works for me, I survived "atheist forum"....
Really? The impression I have is that he got handed his head,put it under his arm and went home.
Quote:I have also done this myself, so I can count my experience as well...
Can't say I have.However, I HAVE tested people claiming the ability. All I will say is that they did not collect James Randi's money.
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