Stratfor E-mails Wikileaks

[kılıç_mehmet]

No, they are running your coup, as a matter of fact.
Every Turkish nationalist knows that this newspaper is actually best put to use somewhere else. Not too soon, we'll tear down their building!

So how is our coup going these days?

I would assume that we've almost won, the turks haven't had a proper fighting force since the mamluks.

The Bahri or Burci mamelukes?
Pfft, you probably don't even care.
On how your coup is going...Well, it's going well. The target is not the parliament, but the hearts of the Turkish people. The likes of the Taraf newspaper are like a poison, that tries to inflitrate the spirit of the Turkish people, just like the communists tried so long ago, but failed.
In fact, they(Taraf and it's followers of liberal/humanists), islamists and commietards go hand to hand in order to replace our republic with a wussy, "sensitive", flower democracy, which has no sense of pride, no care for the wellbeing of the people, and no other use but to serve the NATO in it's deeds.
Enough for politics.

And for history, since you probably need a lesson, I'll start with the mamelukes.
Mamelukes were formed from mostly pagan Turks, from Desht-i Kipchak, which now cognates to the vast Russian steppe, and extends to central asia.
Bahri mamelukes were formed from these slaves, and usurped the dynasty from the Arabs, and defeated the Mongols at the Battle of Ayn Jalud.
The later mamelukes, were mostly Slaves from the Caucasus.
And they operated under Ottoman Egypt, until they were dispatched by another Ottoman General who asserted sovereignity in Egypt, by declaring independence.

Well I knew most of that already, you missed out the part about them being captured and indoctrinated children also you you didn't mention Baybars and the humiliation of the crusaders almostas an after thought to holding off the mongols, or their complete dicking at the hands of Napolean.

But when they were in their prime they were badass mother fuckers.

Well, the Mamelukes were, as their name said, slaves.
They became masters afterwards, but the later mamelukes of...thin bloodlines like Caucasians(Georgians and the like), spelled doom for their dynasty. The Ottomans asserted control over their rule later on, but foolishly left them in their place. Most were probably tyrannical landlords after all.

[downbeatplumb]

Well, the Mamelukes were, as their name said, slaves.
They became masters afterwards, but the later mamelukes of...thin bloodlines like Caucasians(Georgians and the like), spelled doom for their dynasty. The Ottomans asserted control over their rule later on, but foolishly left them in their place. Most were probably tyrannical landlords after all.

I think there downfall was more down to the corrupting influence of power and the distraction of harems rather than the dilution of their bloodline.

In fact genetically it is better to be as unrelated as possible to produce healthy progeny.

The royal familes of europe are a good example of where inbreeding can take you with a larger than usual crop of rare diseaces including insanity, haemophilia and prophoryia.

One of the most famous example of a genetic disorder aggravated by royal family intermarriage was the House of Habsburg, which inmarried particularly often. Famous in this case is the Habsburger (Unter) Lippe (Habsburg jaw/Habsburg lip/"Austrian lip") (mandibular prognathism), typical for many Habsburg relatives over a period of six centuries.[24] The condition progressed through the generations to the point that the last of the Spanish Habsburgs, Charles II of Spain, could not properly chew his food.[25]
Besides the jaw deformity, Charles II also had a huge number of other genetic physical, intellectual, sexual, and emotional problems. It is speculated that the simultaneous occurrence in Charles II of two different genetic disorders: combined pituitary hormone deficiency and distal renal tubular acidosis could explain most of the complex clinical profile of this king, including his impotence/infertility which in the last instance led to the extinction of the dynasty.[26]
Another famous genetic disease that circulated among European royalty was hemophilia. Because the progenitor, Queen Victoria, was in a first cousin marriage, it is often mistakenly believed that the cause was consanguinity. However, this disease is generally not aggravated by cousin marriages, although rare cases of hemophilia in girls (though not including Victoria) are thought to result from the union of hemophiliac men and their cousins.

[The Grand Nudger]

The "Thin-blooded Theory of the Decay of Regional Powers"...lol. Sometimes I wonder if you come post here directly after attending rallies.

[kılıç_mehmet]

The "Thin-blooded Theory of the Decay of Regional Powers"...lol. Sometimes I wonder if you come post here directly after attending rallies.

Oh no, the rallies I attend to are not of the type I'd like them to be about.
But in my eyes, it's certain that the slave dynasy experienced a downfall after their ranks began to be reinforced by caucasian slaves, rather than Turks.
I think the reason is that the caucasians were a settled set of people, not nomadic and warlike like us. Even after we settled down, we didn't lose our warrior spirit, as it seems, it's in our blood to wreck havoc and war upon the world.

In fact genetically it is better to be as unrelated as possible to produce healthy progeny.

Well, I'm not saying that you should marry your cousin. But by looking at the Ottoman sultans, who exclusively only had children from foreign slave girls, the Sultans didn't seem to get any smarter, nor stronger.
In fact, by the time the pollution of the blood started to go over the line, the empire experienced the Sultanate of women, where the Sultans were mere puppets, dancing to their mother's tune.
Really, what did their mongrelization bring to us?

The royal familes of europe are a good example of where inbreeding can take you with a larger than usual crop of rare diseaces including insanity, haemophilia and prophoryia.

Well, not saying that one should inbreed, but we should marry amongst our own. And since royalty is not a reality anymore in the modern Turkic world, I'd say that this is a problem we have surpassed.

[downbeatplumb]

Well, I'm not saying that you should marry your cousin. But by looking at the Ottoman sultans, who exclusively only had children from foreign slave girls, the Sultans didn't seem to get any smarter, nor stronger.

But thats only coz they had everything a young man could want, lots of foreign slave girls.

Why wage wars of conquest or mdernise the society...or anything really when you have castles of slave girls to do your every bidding.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Well, I'm not saying that you should marry your cousin. But by looking at the Ottoman sultans, who exclusively only had children from foreign slave girls, the Sultans didn't seem to get any smarter, nor stronger.

But thats only coz they had everything a young man could want, lots of foreign slave girls.

Why wage wars of conquest or mdernise the society...or anything really when you have castles of slave girls to do your every bidding.

Well, at least they did not have shortages of heirs, but seriously, the lack of serious leadership lead to their ruin, and to the ruin of us.
But maybe, that was meant to be, and we finally carved ourselves a state for us, from a vile multiethnic state, like the other ethnicities did.
It'd be a shame if all the other ethnicities had their own nation states and we did not.
That is what our Bashbugh Atatürk tried to archieve. A state, not for some dynastic guy, but for the spine of the state, that has brought forth the state in the first place.

[reverendjeremiah]

*yawn* Racial superiority is so 1940's

Get with the modern age Mehmet.

[kılıç_mehmet]

And anarchy belongs to the ancient times.

[The Grand Nudger]

Of course it is Rev, but you're talking about a guy that's proud of his families SS uniform.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Of course it is Rev, but you're talking about a guy that's proud of his families SS uniform.

I'm not proud of the uniform that my great grandfather did not even wear. I'm proud that he was willing to go and fight the red menace to save his brethren.
Besides, he could not leave Turkey to join the Osttürkische Waffenband, although it certainly would have mattered little. He would have perished just like many others of our kind.