Dawkins>Prospect(?)

[Edwardo Piet]

Also Dawkins said - and I paraphrase here - : The difference between fundamentalism, and what's simply just passion, is that fundamentalism is what happens if you're passionate about something in the absence of evidence.
It becomes fundamentalism when your passion rejects evidence.
Hope I got that right.

I guess this must be the quote you're referring to:

"No, please, do not mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which never will. Passion for passion, an evangelical Christian and I may be evenly matched. But we are not equally fundamentalist. The true scientist, however passionately he may "believe", in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence! The fundamentalist knows that nothing will." Dawkins (from How dare you call me a fundamentalist)

Good quote so thanks

Kyu

Evidence of GODs message can be found by searching facebook for 'Message from GOD'. You will find a picture of a scrabble game with words describing Heaven.

This is a joke right? Sounds like skyhookery again.
I indeed do not think that the argument from personal experience, or psychological, or other forms of, trickery, are genuine forms of evidence.

[ManofGOD]

Hmmm. Sadly evolution, while consisting of facts and verifiable theories, cannot explain the origins of life. Attacks on religion are wrong. Spiritual truths are revealed by GOD in the religions.

That sounds like nothing more than plain skyhookery to me.

Do you undertand the difference between spiritual truth and scientific truth? Perhaps I can show you.

[Edwardo Piet]

Hmmm. Sadly evolution, while consisting of facts and verifiable theories, cannot explain the origins of life. Attacks on religion are wrong. Spiritual truths are revealed by GOD in the religions.

That sounds like nothing more than plain skyhookery to me.

Do you undertand the difference between spiritual truth and scientific truth? Perhaps I can show you.

Spiritual truth? What is that? Like Moral right and wrong? Unconnected with the material world/the existence/non-existence of something? No I don't know how you personally define 'spiritual truth'... yes please do tell.

[chatpilot]

ManofGOD let me ask you a question.So, since we don't know the origins of life through scientific discovery you think we are to just give up and accept the version written down by some leader of a nomadic tribe that claims to have had a revelation from God about 6 to 10,000 years ago?That makes as much sense as jumping off a plane without a parachute.Also,remember that a revelation is only a revelation to the one who claims to have received it and hearsay to all the rest.

[ManofGOD]

Also Dawkins said - and I paraphrase here - : The difference between fundamentalism, and what's simply just passion, is that fundamentalism is what happens if you're passionate about something in the absence of evidence.
It becomes fundamentalism when your passion rejects evidence.
Hope I got that right.

I guess this must be the quote you're referring to:

"No, please, do not mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which never will. Passion for passion, an evangelical Christian and I may be evenly matched. But we are not equally fundamentalist. The true scientist, however passionately he may "believe", in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence! The fundamentalist knows that nothing will." Dawkins (from How dare you call me a fundamentalist)

Good quote so thanks

Kyu

Evidence of GODs message can be found by searching facebook for 'Message from GOD'. You will find a picture of a scrabble game with words describing Heaven.

This is a joke right? Sounds like skyhookery again.
I indeed do not think that the argument from personal experience, or psychological, or other forms of, trickery, are genuine forms of evidence.

No. This is no joke. I was a hardcore atheist for 16 years, believing that evolution and the big bang explained everything, until GOD showed himself to me. I understand fully your views, but they are wrong.

[chatpilot]

Wow that is a good one!! God showed himself to you?And exactly how did he do that,did he show up at your dinner table or something?

[Edwardo Piet]

Also Dawkins said - and I paraphrase here - : The difference between fundamentalism, and what's simply just passion, is that fundamentalism is what happens if you're passionate about something in the absence of evidence.
It becomes fundamentalism when your passion rejects evidence.
Hope I got that right.

I guess this must be the quote you're referring to:

"No, please, do not mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which never will. Passion for passion, an evangelical Christian and I may be evenly matched. But we are not equally fundamentalist. The true scientist, however passionately he may "believe", in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence! The fundamentalist knows that nothing will." Dawkins (from How dare you call me a fundamentalist)

Good quote so thanks

Kyu

Evidence of GODs message can be found by searching facebook for 'Message from GOD'. You will find a picture of a scrabble game with words describing Heaven.

This is a joke right? Sounds like skyhookery again.
I indeed do not think that the argument from personal experience, or psychological, or other forms of, trickery, are genuine forms of evidence.

No. This is no joke. I was a hardcore atheist for 16 years, believing that evolution and the big bang explained everything, until GOD showed himself to me. I understand fully your views, but they are wrong.

Oh, dear.

Well you've obviously abandoned logic if you suggest that it is beyond all doubt that a God exists...you can't KNOW that. In fact you PROBABLY can't know ANYTHING. Nor can I. Not for sure. Not 100%. There are too many conceivable (and inconceivable) possibilites and variables. As Socrates said, I believe, quite rightly,: "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance."
Statistically I'm afraid, and I mean no harm by this; but based on statistical probability I'd say you're probably much, much, much, more likely to be hallucinating, and to have imagined/ be imagining your experience of God - than for God to really exist. I would have thought that would be obvious to a former true 'Hardcore' Atheist...unless you're talking of the 100% disbelief of a 'Strong' atheist in the sense of, an Atheist who, does not accept the possibility of God. Who thinks some things can be disproved. I doubt anything can be disproved. Like I said, I even doubt that. I'm a De-Facto Atheist. I am (somewhat) skeptical. I'm no longer a 'Strong' Atheist. And from experience I(think I ) know that 'Strong' Atheism can lead to 'Strong' Theism. 'Strong' anything, whether Theist or Atheist or whatever, in the Gnostic sense, can be considered Dogmatic perhaps - and can perhaps lead to other 'Dogmas'

[ManofGOD]

Hmmm. Sadly evolution, while consisting of facts and verifiable theories, cannot explain the origins of life. Attacks on religion are wrong. Spiritual truths are revealed by GOD in the religions.

That sounds like nothing more than plain skyhookery to me.

Do you undertand the difference between spiritual truth and scientific truth? Perhaps I can show you.

Spiritual truth? What is that? Like Moral right and wrong? Unconnected with the material world/the existence/non-existence of something? No I don't know how you personally define 'spiritual truth'... yes please do tell.

We are spiritual creatures. The conscious mind is the soul and the sub-conscious mind the spirit.

[chatpilot]

Too bad I have to get going but I would love to chat with you on this matter some more ManofGod.

[ManofGOD]

Wow that is a good one!! God showed himself to you?And exactly how did he do that,did he show up at your dinner table or something?

Yes. The holy spirit descended on my father, while playing scrabble. The change was visible. I was filled with awe.