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Why Does God Exist?
#51
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 8:01 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:
(March 18, 2012 at 7:58 pm)elunico13 Wrote: What you're telling me is this visciuosly circular reasoning process you use. You're telling me you use what you've got, your senses, using your senses. That's like saying the sky is blue because its blue.

Obviously you know nothing about 'evidence'. I guess you wouldn't would you?

You wanna answer Insanity X's post above? I think he made a rather good point.

I'm saying without starting with God from Christianity you can't know anything. I appreciate your honesty with me and telling me you're not sure about your own senses and therefore can't account for knowing anything.
My basis to rely on my own reasoning is that God created me in a way I can reason in this world. I have a justification for my senses being valid, but none of you do. "My senses are valid because my senses are all we have". If you don't see a problem with that then you're not being intellectually honest with yourself.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
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#52
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 8:07 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: God, this is boring. Who wants to do something more productive and give me a massage?

Need plane tickets Big Grin
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#53
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 7:50 pm)Insanity x Wrote:
(March 18, 2012 at 7:45 pm)elunico13 Wrote: How do you determine the correct interpretation of others senses with your own if you can't depend on them?

How do you define god? How do you define proof of god? If our senses cannot be trusted how do we know we are reading the bible right? How do we know we are not actually the imagination of a really clever sleeping goldfish? How do we know you exist? How many legs do you have? Are you god? What is a god anyway? What are the properties of a god? How do we know the properties of god if we cannot trust any of our senses? Where is god? How do we know where god is? How many gods are there and how can we know for certain? Im not sure if I have hands I cant trust my eyes. do I have hands?

DUDE YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!

I'm not saying you can't trust your senses. What I am saying is you have no justification for them.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
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#54
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 8:28 pm)elunico13 Wrote: I'm not saying you can't trust your senses. What I am saying is you have no justification for them.

Justify god. And his existence and evidence for him/her/it/thing

By observation of my fellow humans I think my senses are somewhat reasonable.
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#55
RE: Why Does God Exist?
Plane ticket pricing is not reasonable.
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#56
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 8:28 pm)elunico13 Wrote: I'm not saying you can't trust your senses. What I am saying is you have no justification for them.

You also failed to answer any of the questions which you asked us to answer the equivalent of.
(March 18, 2012 at 8:32 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Plane ticket pricing is not reasonable.

Hmm. Plus it would be a long wait for a massage.
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#57
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 8:30 pm)Insanity x Wrote:
(March 18, 2012 at 8:28 pm)elunico13 Wrote: I'm not saying you can't trust your senses. What I am saying is you have no justification for them.

Justify god. And his existence and evidence for him/her/it/thing

By observation of my fellow humans I think my senses are somewhat reasonable.

If I say God is real because he is real you wouldn't accept that. Why should I accept your observation of fellow humans? Observation of the blind who can't see and the deaf that can't hear? This is not justification.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
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#58
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 9:35 pm)elunico13 Wrote: If I say God is real because he is real you wouldn't accept that. Why should I accept your observation of fellow humans? Observation of the blind who can't see and the deaf that can't hear? This is not justification.

Did you sleep through the biology class in school? Observation is based on the perception through the use of our 5 senses; the supposedly god figure has never been "observed" by these senses.

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#59
RE: Why Does God Exist?
We've actually got somewhere between 9-21 senses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUn7zy8Ya20

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#60
RE: Why Does God Exist?
(March 18, 2012 at 7:03 pm)Forsaken Wrote: My question is simple - what is the purpose of God's existence. Its not a matter of him/her/it existing but the question of WHY?

Fire away...

Good question. If you look at the mess His Creation has become and either His absolute policy of non-intervention, or His impotence to do something about the mess, whichever is the case He's clearly pretty useless IRL.

So I'd recommend He jump off a cliff.
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