Evolution

[R-e-n-n-a-t]

At the end of the day you cannot prove or disprove God or Gods as you don't even know what you are talking about.

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I suppose the athiest religion is the "System".

You can't disprove the notion that there's an invisible, intangible, supernatural tooth brush that follows you around and sings silent hymns about brushing after every meal.

That's no reason to believe it, and therefore any belief in a deity is as good as disproved. I'm not going to bother refuting the insult to my intelligence; the first defense in a losing argument is invariably personal attacks, and you have admitted to being on the losing end with that remark.

[Epimethean]

The answer to your original question would tend to be "yes," and the question to your recent rhetoric is, "what is your real purpose with the sudden shift in inquiries?"

[Minimalist]

Hi I was wondering if athiests believe in evolution.

We do not have to "believe" in it. The evidence for it is conclusive.

Moron.

[fuckass365]

Hi I was wondering if athiests believe in evolution.

We do not have to "believe" in it. The evidence for it is conclusive.

Moron.

Always a charmer

[le_procyon]

I believe in it the same way I believe in gravitation.

[WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth]

No, gods evolved from stories and peoples fear of the unknown.

[Welsh cake]

Hi I was wondering if athiests believe in evolution.

"Believe" is the wrong word to use. Now, accept and acknowledge it as scientific fact, sure a lot of us do, but not all of us.

Atheism is a response to theistic claims about deities, it has nothing to do with the evolution of life, or biology at all for that matter.

Let me simplify, a god is a being with the power of creation, a master of manipulation of energy and matter.

Energy and matter while they can indeed change forms, cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore, according to the laws of conservation, fundamental physics, your god concept, as you define it, doesn't exist. However this does not refute certain concepts like pandeism, where 'God' is described as the collective totality of all energy and matter of the Universe.

Not that its science's job to refute such concepts, it seeks confirmers, but you understand your position is even more undesirable than the pandeists' right now.

But all the laws of physics cannot be said to be eternal everywhere.

They're indefinite as far as we know. You have to demonstrate somewhere, some kind of reality, where they don't apply first. I sincerely doubt you'll be able to pull this 'theoretical framework or model' off because then you'll be giving us something nonsensical where maths, physics, and the fundamental forces of interaction don't work as opposed to something that actually works and is demonstrable, more real, i.e reality.

And with using science you are left with massive blindspots. You are limited to going over incoming data to be sure. Everything is limited to what we know, put simply.

Are you kidding me? That's utter nonsense. You are trying to denigrate science to bolster religious beliefs. To first be able to legitimately criticise science (while all you do is rely on irrational evidence-free concepts) you need to demonstrate that you have some better method of acquiring knowledge. To understand reality. The scientific method is the single most reliable tool we've ever developed for discerning fact from fiction.

You cannot supplement experimentation and observation of our universe for religious arguments, personal experience, blind faith and at best, hypotheses, because these aren't routes to the truth. These are traps, they are nothing more than egocentric appeals to imagination, emotion and basic psychological needs such as the need to feel watched over by a personal god and the desire to live forever.

Modern religion has it's uses, if you convince the masses God is watching you all the time and you better be good or else Hell fire will be your lot. You need less police. You have self oppression, today Godless people tend to use Marxism, Feminism and Humanism to oppress themselves. Think about it, when the USA was devoutly Christian there was far less crime.

What a load of hogwash.

These broad-faced assertions are not even worth my time answering. You really think the fear of Hell is going to stop criminals who honestly believe they're bound for Heaven? Go look up the statistics with regards to re-offenders and the prison population of the US and you'll find you're woefully wrong.

Collective beliefs cause oppression and self oppression, if you live by primordial instinct you are truly free as an individual. This is getting away from gods but I see that the secularists tend to bind themselves up in so many laws and so called "rights".

We need secular laws and rights you tool.

We need rules that changes as society changes. It enforces us to protect the general public and punish rule-breakers. Equality laws are also what stops the religious majority from trampling out the minority groups in a democratic society.

I'd like to hear you complain about laws and rights when someone breaks into your house and steals all your belongings or you're been threatened by a bunch of religious fanatics at work. >.>

Well I suppose I don't know, no one really knows what a God is.

This does not help your argument for a cosmic creator.

Muhammad said that man was in Gods image related to reason, so God has reason but he said that God was beyond understanding.

How did Muhammad understand that God was beyond understanding? God help you if you cannot spot the contradiction.

So I believe in things beyond my understanding I suppose.

You don't believe in very much then do you?

At the end of the day you cannot prove or disprove God or Gods as you don't even know what you are talking about.

Don't shift the burden of proof onto your audience. If you claim there's a god, then prove it. Put up or shut up.

I suppose the athiest religion is the "System".

Atheism, the position of disbelief with regards to god or gods, is NOT a religion. Look it up.

[john2find]

Hi I was wondering if athiests believe in evolution. And Earth is a fairly new world cosmically speaking could it be possible that God/s evolved before Earth? Let me simplify, a god is a being with the power of creation, a master of maipulation of energy and matter. Could it be possible that in the eons of the Chaos the Gods evolved?

Nope such god is never a omnipotent as he has evolved out of something.

[Rusko]

"Evolution is just a theory, but yet so is gravity and you don't see people jumping off buildings."

[The Grand Nudger]

Pick a god, we'll see about the whole disproving bit. I don't think that this is quite as difficult as you seem to believe.