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The Abrahamic religions and burning
May 11, 2012 at 4:48 pm
What is it with modern Abrahamic religions and burning people in hell, I swear at-least half what to see people who are not like them burn forever in a the spiritual equivalent of a Furness. it like there pyromaniac and are almost happy to see others burning in this Furness. This people must be fucking sick in the head but wound be treated because its there religion, there deeply disturbed pyromaniacs and sadomasochistic. also this is considered the norm? what kind of fucked up world is this?
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RE: The Abrahamic religions and burning
May 11, 2012 at 4:51 pm
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2012 at 4:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Limited tools available in the lifetimes of those who authored the tales. Consider that the flames of hell-fire and judgement had largely morphed into nuclear apocalypse by our lifetimes. Burning once ranked as one of (if not the most) violent and painful way to go. We've since advanced our ability to inflict pain upon each other, beliefs have shifted accordingly (though for many, that long lived and ancestral fear/fixation with the flame remains).
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RE: The Abrahamic religions and burning
May 12, 2012 at 6:38 am
(May 11, 2012 at 4:48 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: What is it with modern Abrahamic religions and burning people in hell, I swear at-least half what to see people who are not like them burn forever in a the spiritual equivalent of a Furness. it like there pyromaniac and are almost happy to see others burning in this Furness. This people must be fucking sick in the head but wound be treated because its there religion, there deeply disturbed pyromaniacs and sadomasochistic. also this is considered the norm? what kind of fucked up world is this?
I don't think that fire is the only thing that awaits you down there.
Fire is just a metaphor, as burning wounds are probably the worst, and most painful wounds out there, fire was used as a metaphor to indicate something very, very, very painful.
Hell, is the place of pain. Fire, on the other hand has been used in context with "the lake of fire" which is a different place from hell, often dubbed "the second death", after which those who go there will cease to exist forever. Hell, however, guarantees the exact opposite of heaven. You will exist forever, but instead of the euphoria of heaven, there will be unspeakable pain there.
How and by whom this pain will be inflicted, who could say?
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RE: The Abrahamic religions and burning
May 12, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Fire is a pretty easily rateable bit of imagery, the vast majority of humankind can relate to it regardless of culture.
Its not just used as a metaphor for Hell though, it is used as a metaphor for the Holy Spirit, ministry, the word of God, etc.
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RE: The Abrahamic religions and burning
May 18, 2012 at 9:19 pm
What is with Christianity and Islam and burning in Hell you mean? Actually I am not clear on the Moslem aspects of Hell beyond that it is only temporary...any Moslem experts please clarify.
The Christian view is based off the Greek version of Tartarus.
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