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Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 3:33 pm
So I came across this, rather insane video about a kid who apparently went to heaven after he had a car crash, but came back to write about scripture and show off his 'gift'.
Riiiight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...e9w36m2Cp4#!
C'mon atheist forums, do what you do best, blow this shit to pieces...
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Sorry Nap, but I couldn't be arsed to watch 23 minutes of that dreck.
Someone should find this kid though, and ask him what Jesus looks like. I guarantee you he will say that Jesus was a white guy with long hair and a beard.
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 3:52 pm
(May 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Sorry Nap, but I couldn't be arsed to watch 23 minutes of that dreck.
Oh even I didn't watch the whole 23 minutes. Fuck that.
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 4:04 pm
The fact that it's on a show called "the supernatural" is more than enough to rule it out as complete nonsense.
A quick flick through and I'm convinced that she's lying. She's using her religious beliefs to explain her feelings and experiences. Also the lad most likely had a very religious upbringing and so like his parents explain things in a way that makes most sense to him.
That about does it. I could probably go more into it but 23 minutes of listening to bollocks could be harmful to my mental health.
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 4:52 pm
The Near Death Experience has been very well documented ever since Raymond Moody's release of "Life after Life". NDE's raise some of the most interesting questions about the nature of mind and strongly suggest the continuation of consciousness after physical death. Materialistic theories appear wholly inadequate in explaining all the various features of the process.
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Strongly suggest continuation of consciousness? That sentence strongly suggests your need to interpret NDE's as a continuation of consciousness.
Here are some link's for you.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...n-dioxide/
http://news.discovery.com/human/-neurosc...10923.html
Quote:A new article published in Trends in Cognitive Sciences by neuroscientist Dean Mobbs, of the University of Cambridge's Medical Research Council Cognition and Brain Sciences Unit, and Caroline Watt, of the University of Edinburgh, finds that "contrary to popular belief, research suggests that there is nothing paranormal about these experiences. Instead, near-death experiences are the manifestation of normal brain function gone awry, during a traumatic, and sometimes harmless, event."
Can't get to the original article, because it costs money.
And here is an article with several theories.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/experts01.html
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I dare not discount the potential of the mother to be a manipulating attention-whore who would alter her child's perception of a tragic accident to gain acclaim and the status of the mother of the jesus kid. sick fucks.
(May 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Someone should find this kid though, and ask him what Jesus looks like. I guarantee you he will say that Jesus was a white guy with long hair and a beard.
That always puzzled me, why did jesus look so teutonic when he was actually iranian? furthermore, how do rednecks justify racial violence on christian teachings when jesus was a middle-eastern jew? seems odd...
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 5:20 pm
(May 30, 2012 at 4:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The Near Death Experience has been very well documented ever since Raymond Moody's release of "Life after Life". NDE's raise some of the most interesting questions about the nature of mind and strongly suggest the continuation of consciousness after physical death.
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I skimming through it. Typing out what pops in my head, just for fun.
Why wasn't that little one strapped into a five point harness car seat?
She "taught her children nice", so they already knew all about jesus, and she wasn't surprised when her little one said jesus had caught him.
Causation vs. correlation. She prayed for jesus to lead her to her son, she found her son, must've been jesus.
So jesus was too busy catching one of them, so now the other kid is in a coma. Weak.
She was shaking because she was in shock. Nothing supernatural about that, though she seems to want there to be.
The heat from the headlights of a truck was the peace of god. Whoa... amazing.
I wonder if children who don't know anything about jesus come out of a coma and talk about jesus? That would be kinda impressive. This is just a kid who has had the christian religion shoved down his throat since he could hold a baby bottle telling his mom of his dreams about jesus. She was probably praying and saying jesus the whole time he was out of it, standing eight over him. Duh.
Audible voices are those that can be heard by other people too. Otherwise it's just a voice in your head.
Houses in heaven? They really believe this crap, don't they?
These people are just trying to sell their books, obviously. He knew the addresses of the parents of the children in heaven. When will the lies ever stop?
All we have is her word, as far as I've seen. The kid had a brain injury and couldn't feed himself, walk, talk, or see... yet he could write letters? You'd have to be pretty brain dead to believe this crap. She's capitalizing on tragedy using religion. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book, as far as I'm aware.
It wasn't her idea for the book.. nooo.. it was her son and jesus who came up with that. Of course! Oh wow, and jesus blew his spirit into the book. So now, all you have to do is buy the book and read it, and you'll be filled with the spirit of jesus too. jesus is a marketing genius, ya know.
What a bunch of crap.
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RE: Boy visits heaven
May 30, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Well, it sounds to me as the tales of the shamans of the old. They used to visit heaven and hell frequently in their trances.
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