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Why So Angry?
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 (September 5, 2009 at 1:46 pm)Retorth Wrote: Alright, thank you for your response. I respect that, by the way. At least you're open about it—or so you say, anyways. Good on ya! Yes, well, I do not merely say so. But your cynicism on that score is duly noted.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. (Oscar Wilde)  (September 5, 2009 at 1:23 pm)Arcanus Wrote:(September 5, 2009 at 1:12 pm)Retorth Wrote: So with that said, you agree there is a chance your mind could be changed and a chance you'll become an atheist? So that the TAG argument has been repeatedly pointed out to have flaws and that the claimed fallacies in those arguments are largely of your own imagining isn't sufficient? Kyu Angry Atheism
Where those who are hacked off with the stupidity of irrational belief can vent their feelings! Come over to the dark side, we have cookies! Kyuuketsuki, AngryAtheism Owner & Administrator (September 5, 2009 at 1:55 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: So that the TAG argument has been repeatedly pointed out to have flaws, and that the claimed fallacies in those arguments are largely of your own imagining, isn't sufficient? My imagination does not determine what is and isn't a fallacy. Logic does. If I identify a fallacy and explain how it was committed, and you disagree with my assessment, feel free to do so—but on logical grounds, if you please. I will respond to your critiques, by either refuting it or conceding to it—on logical grounds.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. (Oscar Wilde) (September 5, 2009 at 2:03 pm)Arcanus Wrote:(September 5, 2009 at 1:55 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: So that the TAG argument has been repeatedly pointed out to have flaws, and that the claimed fallacies in those arguments are largely of your own imagining, isn't sufficient? And in my experience all you theists do EXACTLY that ... the fallacies in opposing arguments that you see are in your heads and ARE NOT based on logic. Kyu Angry Atheism
Where those who are hacked off with the stupidity of irrational belief can vent their feelings! Come over to the dark side, we have cookies! Kyuuketsuki, AngryAtheism Owner & Administrator  (September 5, 2009 at 1:53 pm)Arcanus Wrote: Yes, well, I do not merely say so. But your cynicism on that score is duly noted. How was I being cynical? I do not even know you, and neither do you me. I merely wanted a straight answer so I asked, is all. Nothing more then a mere question. lol In any case, I was being sincere when I thanked you.
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato “Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins RE: Why So Angry?
September 5, 2009 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: September 5, 2009 at 2:13 pm by Ryft.)
(September 5, 2009 at 2:06 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And in my experience, all you theists do EXACTLY that. The fallacies you see in opposing arguments are in your heads and ARE NOT based on logic. Like I said, feel free to make your case on logical grounds if you think I have done that somewhere. I will respond, likewise on logical grounds. (September 5, 2009 at 2:08 pm)Retorth Wrote: How was I being cynical? I do not even know you, and neither do you me. I detected implicit cynicism in "or so you say, anyways." And only there; i.e., the rest of your post struck me as sincere. And thank you.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. (Oscar Wilde) (September 5, 2009 at 2:11 pm)Arcanus Wrote: I detected implicit cynicism in "or so you say, anyways." And only there; i.e., the rest of your post struck me as sincere. And thank you. Well I apologize for the misunderstanding there. 
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato “Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins (September 5, 2009 at 2:11 pm)Arcanus Wrote:(September 5, 2009 at 2:06 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And in my experience, all you theists do EXACTLY that. The fallacies you see in opposing arguments are in your heads and ARE NOT based on logic. And that's exactly my point ... I DO make my case only to be accused WRONGLY of fallacy. Kyu Angry Atheism
Where those who are hacked off with the stupidity of irrational belief can vent their feelings! Come over to the dark side, we have cookies! Kyuuketsuki, AngryAtheism Owner & Administrator (September 6, 2009 at 7:44 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: That's exactly my point—I DO make my case, only to be accused WRONGLY of fallacy. I have pointed out the fallacies in the arguments thus far presented against the TAG, which you said only exist in my imagination. Since it is logic, not my imagination, that determines what is and isn't a fallacy, I invited you to disagree with my assessment on logical grounds. Take some fallacy I identified and, using logic, demonstrate how it is not actually that fallacy.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. (Oscar Wilde) (September 6, 2009 at 8:58 pm)Arcanus Wrote:(September 6, 2009 at 7:44 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: That's exactly my point—I DO make my case, only to be accused WRONGLY of fallacy. Don't tell me how to frame my opinion of you! I will respond to you in my own good time and in the way I choose to debate. IMO it is you theists that are masters of fallacy and typically, when accused in return it is on the basis of some clever verbal trickery. Kyu Angry Atheism
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