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Why do you not believe in God?
RE: Why do you not believe in God?
Good point. Glad to get rid of it really, I only used it for cleaning the toilet anyway.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 4:32 am)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 12:37 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: I have studied logic a little and I would disagree.

1. The absence of evidence isn't always evidence of absence
2. Therefore I must accept all God claims (catos "proposed postulate")

How does 2 follow from 1?

I find your stubborn rejection of reason disturbing. and by the way, watching Craig videos is not studying logic, it is studying ANTI-logic. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You are a perfect example of this.

You didn't actually respond at all to what I said.

(July 11, 2012 at 4:21 am)KnockEmOuttt Wrote: I don't believe in god because because I don't see the point. More specifically, if some form of creator being does exist I see no point in worshipping it, nor do I see a point in convincing myself/others that it has set guidelines for me to live my life by. "God" as written about by man is a complete invention. Could it all have been started by one being? Perhaps, but I can't possibly know that certainly in either direction. I do believe that it is not this character of God that man has created, however.

If the God of Jesus Christ exists there is a good possibility that you will go to hell when you die… that seems enough of a reason to take the question seriously.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
Only if your if is valid. If not, what then?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 9:20 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: If the God of Jesus Christ exists there is a good possibility that you will go to hell when you die… that seems enough of a reason to take the question seriously.

If there is a thing which will attack me for an honestly held view, it is my duty to resist it; for it is a bad thing.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 9:20 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 4:32 am)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: I find your stubborn rejection of reason disturbing. and by the way, watching Craig videos is not studying logic, it is studying ANTI-logic. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You are a perfect example of this.

You didn't actually respond at all to what I said.

You don't respond to what everyone else is saying. Specifically the ones who are trying to school you on basic logic and reason. Pot. Kettle.


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(July 11, 2012 at 4:21 am)KnockEmOuttt Wrote: I don't believe in god because because I don't see the point. More specifically, if some form of creator being does exist I see no point in worshipping it, nor do I see a point in convincing myself/others that it has set guidelines for me to live my life by. "God" as written about by man is a complete invention. Could it all have been started by one being? Perhaps, but I can't possibly know that certainly in either direction. I do believe that it is not this character of God that man has created, however.

If the God of Jesus Christ exists there is a good possibility that you will go to hell when you die… that seems enough of a reason to take the question seriously.

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And for your disbelief you will suffer eternity in the land of the Ice Giants. Think about it.

This is called Fallacy Argumentum ad Baculum. Your silly threats only scare small children and drooling idiots like yourself
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 9:20 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: If the God of Jesus Christ exists there is a good possibility that you will go to hell when you die… that seems enough of a reason to take the question seriously.

Honestly, I have taken it seriously. I myself did fear the Abrahamic God, feared it to an overwhelming degree....

But now I realize such a being is not worthy of worship. It's not great, it's not majestic, it's not honourable.

Even if for some reason, people were evil for not believing in Christianity, why can't God forgive them? Are they that bad? Do you feel such cold wrathful vengeance over disbelievers, that you believe they should be tortured and tortured for this disbelief?

Is that a being worthy of Worship? Is that the honourable thing to do?
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 9:49 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 9:20 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: If the God of Jesus Christ exists there is a good possibility that you will go to hell when you die… that seems enough of a reason to take the question seriously.

Honestly, I have taken it seriously. I myself did fear the Abrahamic God, feared it to an overwhelming degree....

But now I realize such a being is not worthy of worship. It's not great, it's not majestic, it's not honourable.

Even if for some reason, people were evil for not believing in Christianity, why can't God forgive them? Are they that bad? Do you feel such cold wrathful vengeance over disbelievers, that you believe they should be tortured and tortured for this disbelief?

Is that a being worthy of Worship? Is that the honourable thing to do?

I would like to formally announce my bromance with MysticKnight. I have to like you for your fairness and willingness to question authority. You the man!
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 10:18 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 9:49 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Honestly, I have taken it seriously. I myself did fear the Abrahamic God, feared it to an overwhelming degree....

But now I realize such a being is not worthy of worship. It's not great, it's not majestic, it's not honourable.

Even if for some reason, people were evil for not believing in Christianity, why can't God forgive them? Are they that bad? Do you feel such cold wrathful vengeance over disbelievers, that you believe they should be tortured and tortured for this disbelief?

Is that a being worthy of Worship? Is that the honourable thing to do?

I would like to formally announce my bromance with MysticKnight. I have to like you for your fairness and willingness to question authority. You the man!

FFS, get a room, you two.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 10:18 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 9:49 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Honestly, I have taken it seriously. I myself did fear the Abrahamic God, feared it to an overwhelming degree....

But now I realize such a being is not worthy of worship. It's not great, it's not majestic, it's not honourable.

Even if for some reason, people were evil for not believing in Christianity, why can't God forgive them? Are they that bad? Do you feel such cold wrathful vengeance over disbelievers, that you believe they should be tortured and tortured for this disbelief?

Is that a being worthy of Worship? Is that the honourable thing to do?

I would like to formally announce my bromance with MysticKnight. I have to like you for your fairness and willingness to question authority. You the man!

lol bromance. Thanks, but I ain't much of a man (without going in details, I'm dissappointed with my life so far but hopefully things will get better). Life was easier when I took the blue pill ya know. The red pill is tough stuff.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 11, 2012 at 9:20 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: If the God of Jesus Christ exists there is a good possibility that you will go to hell when you die… that seems enough of a reason to take the question seriously.

I'm sorry, at what point did you think I wasn't taking the question seriously? Hell is as much an invention as is the "God of Jesus Christ." It's there as a control mechanism, so that you have something absolute and eternal to fear if you don't join the club.

It's starting to sound like you're here looking for converts, and you're getting all bent out of shape because you can't find any.
You really believe in a man who has helped to save the world twice, with the power to change his physical appearance? An alien who travels though time and space--in a police box?!? [Image: TARDIS.gif]
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