My Defense of Christianity.

[FallentoReason]

There must be something else that we're missing out here. I just don't see how your faith and knowledge work together to produce one coherent worldview.

I have a theory that "worldview" is a word Christian fundamentalists made up to give respectability to their beliefs. There's only one reality but they like to talk about this being the "atheistic worldview" and that being the "Christian worldview" as if there are different existences and it's up to you to decide which you want to choose. That's utter rubbish. There is only one true reality and the rest are bunkum.

Agreed. There's only one reality, but we all try our best to approximate our beliefs to reflect that reality aka our worldview. That's how I see it anyways.

[Jaysyn]

#2 Near Death Experiences
I know I’m gonna get bashed for this. Oh, it’s just something funny going on in your brain. Oh they’re lying etc etc. Trouble is there are millions of cases, and it’s really not plausible to suggest every single one of them was a lie.

1.) You need to do a little research on dimethyltryptamine.

2.) An anecdote, but my current girlfriend has been clinically dead 4 times since she was a teenager (she's feeling much better now) & the only thing she experienced was oblivion.

By the way, your original post read as nothing more than a long list of logical fallacies to me.

[greneknight]

I have a theory that "worldview" is a word Christian fundamentalists made up to give respectability to their beliefs. There's only one reality but they like to talk about this being the "atheistic worldview" and that being the "Christian worldview" as if there are different existences and it's up to you to decide which you want to choose. That's utter rubbish. There is only one true reality and the rest are bunkum.

Agreed. There's only one reality, but we all try our best to approximate our beliefs to reflect that reality aka our worldview. That's how I see it anyways.

No, I didn't mean you. You're an atheist so you're rational. It's the Christian fundamentalists I was thinking of. They will say if you choose evolution, you are taking the atheistic worldview. This gives respectability to their evidence-less creationism.

But lots of Christians are not honest. They know there is no evidence for their faith but they say there is an abundance of evidence. And when asked for a tiny shred of evidence, they get angry. That's what happened in Christian Forums. They accused me of being an atheist and under their rules, only Christians are permitted to post in their Theology section as well as their Apologetics section. Can you believe that? Only Christians can post in the apologetics section!!!! Non-Christians are banned if they post there. My 3-day ban is over but I don't want to go back there. I'm sure they will ban me again just because I'm not fundamentalist.

[Jaysyn]

But lots of Christians are not honest. They know there is no evidence for their faith but they say there is an abundance of evidence. And when asked for a tiny shred of evidence, they get angry. That's what happened in Christian Forums.

Well you're in a better place now (see what I did there?)

Anyhow, and no offense meant, you do sound much more like a deist who enjoys the trappings of the CoE than your average Christian.

What are your thoughts on the resurrection?

[FallentoReason]

You're pretty interesting grene. Hopefully you stick around. I want to see how you come across more in discussion.

[CaseyTheAthie]

I've been reading this and really dig how Green thinks. You're def a rare breed in the circle of people Ive met/read on, ya know...

[greneknight]

But lots of Christians are not honest. They know there is no evidence for their faith but they say there is an abundance of evidence. And when asked for a tiny shred of evidence, they get angry. That's what happened in Christian Forums.

Well you're in a better place now (see what I did there?)

Anyhow, and no offense meant, you do sound much more like a deist who enjoys the trappings of the CoE than your average Christian.

What are your thoughts on the resurrection?

The only place you can really find any mention of the resurrection is the gospels. But the gospels were written by terribly superstitious folks. One example is in St Matthew, the writer (who's probably some unknown Hellenistic Christian and not St Matthew himself) tells us how when Jesus died, many holy people rose from the dead and they walked from their tombs to the town and many people saw them. Did that happen? I'm sure even the most diehard fundamentalist will have to admit it didn't happen. Come on, if it did, surely there would be accounts of such a phenomenal thing in other writings. So, if that didn't happen as any sane chap must admit, did the resurrection of Jesus happen?

There's another piece of evidence. The Gospels all contradict one another like crazy. But when it comes to the resurrection account, they contradict themselves a thousand times more. So what does that tell us about the reliability of the resurrection account?

Any honest Christian surely must agree with me.

[Anomalocaris]

My Defense of Christianity .......

Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of "defense".


Defense is where you stand on the ground you think your know well and which your opponent hasn't taken yet,

It's not where you jump up and down on ground that you, let's be honest, have nothing but some hearsay familiarity, but your opponent owns like the back of his hand, exclaiming "But, but, but, but.........."

[CBA222]

grene I really don't get you. Are you a Christian atheist? That's someone who lives like Jesus according to the Bible but doesn't actually believe God exists. Anyways, coming here is basically suicide for me, I know I'm never gonna get a point across with your current mindset. Just......please consider it? It doesn't take much and the reward is great. Just please just try it, don't toss it out too quickly. It is pretty much impossible to disprove God, but then there wouldn't be point, would there? It just takes some faith, just consider it, it's not a big sacrifice.

Bye,

[pocaracas]

Somehow, I'm feeling ignored...
Such a waste of perfectly good text, from this thread:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-14516-p...#pid328943