My chat with Richard Dawkins

[greneknight]

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Let me get this bit straight though; you can quote the Bible, yet others earn a measure of disdain in your eye by quoting "others to validate thier own points...". How exactly does this work without invoking the word 'hypocrisy'?

It doesn't Hence "My self included" comment. On the otherhand I have not adopted the handel of "free thinker" either, a title most of you award yourself.

Who quotes 'what' for the validation of your beliefs? When was the last time you quoted the gospels of Thomas, Judas, or Mary Magdelene?

In a discussion with fallen to reason. I believe He misquoted from one of those gospel and I corrected and clarified that quote. (which was the last time I quoted anything outside the 66 books on this web site.)

Are you now going to tell me that a fourth century Roman Emperor (Constantine), trying his best to consolidate power, didn't help dictate the canon to his advantage?

If he did his efforts failed.

How does it feel? This is a serious question. How does it feel to abdicate your soul to a book and it's consequent traditions knowing that both were the product of musings of men two thousand years ago. Have you considered this?

Indeed i have. I have found comfort in my dedication, because God has reassured me of my desisions.

What of the other fact that there are always 'other' men demanding feliance and tything. No cause for concern?

The reason 'other men' can get an audience to give them what they ask, is people like the op are more than willing to hand their minds over to someone who seemingly can give them freedom they want. The same is true apart from any affiliation one may have with God.

You are wrong. Historians say that it;s because of the Roman Emperor asking for a complete Bible that the canon was made up. That is one of the factors that even evangelical scholars accept as a part of the formation history of the canon. See FF Bruce, The Canon of Scriptures.

You also said "God reassured you of your decisions". Can you please tell me how he went about doing that and what it was that made you certain it was God.

[Drich]

You know it wasn't till challenged that the op claimed to be 13 on this site. He posted that he was 13 on the christian site. What would be the benfit of posting that age on the christian site? He gets to mingle in the kids only section and private message actual children... If he were 13 then why not lead with that fact here?

[greneknight]

You know it wasn't till challenged that the op claimed to be 13 on this site. He posted that he was 13 on the christian site. What would be the benfit of posting that age on the christian site? He gets to mingle in the kids only section and private message actual children... If he were 13 then why not lead with that fact here?

I have been very clear about my age from the very beginning. You can ask the moderators about the moment I signed in. I did not hide my date of birth. You can also check to see if I have sent any private message to people my age. I can't stand them in the first place. I have posted on various Christian teen sites and they're really stupid. YOu can't argue with these kids. Especially if they are Christians. They've been thoroughly brainwashed.

[Red Celt]

I was shocked that Dawkins was so incredibly rude. He called GOd infanticidal, genocidal and a whole string of terrible descriptions. I saw the video with another altar boy and some friends in the choir (I was still in the Evensong choir) and we were all thunderstruck. How could a grown up and a respectable Oxford fellow be so rude and unethical?

The following quote is taken from the following blog: DUM FATA SINUNT, VIVITE LAETI

I remember listening to a talk by an atheist who said the most monstrous things about God. But every word of accusation he uttered against God was perfectly true. He called God, among other things, a homicidal, infanticidal ethnic cleanser. I knew enough of my Old Testament to know that every word was true. But I could feel my anger rising within me as he continued his just tirade against God.

Greneknight, 2003:-

[greneknight]

I was shocked that Dawkins was so incredibly rude. He called GOd infanticidal, genocidal and a whole string of terrible descriptions. I saw the video with another altar boy and some friends in the choir (I was still in the Evensong choir) and we were all thunderstruck. How could a grown up and a respectable Oxford fellow be so rude and unethical?

The following quote is taken from the following blog: DUM FATA SINUNT, VIVITE LAETI

I remember listening to a talk by an atheist who said the most monstrous things about God. But every word of accusation he uttered against God was perfectly true. He called God, among other things, a homicidal, infanticidal ethnic cleanser. I knew enough of my Old Testament to know that every word was true. But I could feel my anger rising within me as he continued his just tirade against God.

Greneknight, 2003:-

Wow, that's a much more elegant way of putting it. I'll bear that in mind.

[Red Celt]

Wow, that's a much more elegant way of putting it. I'll bear that in mind.

Done and busted. Why not join as yourself, rather than as a 13yr old? Nobody cares who you are... but they might care that your entire persona is a lie.

[greneknight]

Wow, that's a much more elegant way of putting it. I'll bear that in mind.

Done and busted. Why not join as yourself, rather than as a 13yr old? Nobody cares who you are... but they might care that your entire persona is a lie.

Because I'm not that person. That's the truth. I don't mind joining as him if I'm really him. I've been reading his blog. He sounds pretty cool and logical. But I don't agree with him. He believes in death penalty!!!!!! He believes in a real God. He has problems with his faith but he still believes in God. I don't. I agree we have a lot in common but my beliefs aren't on all fours with his. And he's married with kids while I'm most certainly not and it doesn't bother me whether you believe me or not.

[Reforged]

Because of that, everyone is amazed and my astounding maturity and most people in forums and yahoo groups don't believe I'm anything less than 40.

Could we all just relish the absurdity of this false claim for just a moment?
Seriously its just... its beautiful.

[greneknight]

Because of that, everyone is amazed and my astounding maturity and most people in forums and yahoo groups don't believe I'm anything less than 40.

Could we all just relish the absurdity of this false claim for just a moment?
Seriously its just... its beautiful.

Well, I have the evidence right in front of you. Red Celt believes I'm not just 40 but a 50 year old Chinaman who's a professor. Married with kids. So there.

[frankiej]

The squiffy forgot to mention his arrogance.