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God as the Centre of Everything
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
January 29, 2013 at 2:50 am (This post was last modified: January 29, 2013 at 2:54 am by Gilgamesh.)
(January 29, 2013 at 2:29 am)Cinjin Wrote: [Image: crybaby_zpsfec6751f.jpg]

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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
January 29, 2013 at 3:03 am (This post was last modified: January 29, 2013 at 3:04 am by Cinjin.)
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
January 29, 2013 at 3:07 am (This post was last modified: January 29, 2013 at 3:07 am by Gilgamesh.)
(January 29, 2013 at 3:03 am)Cinjin Wrote: [Image: YoureStupid.jpg]



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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
January 29, 2013 at 12:22 pm
I used to go to school with a Russel Watts.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
January 29, 2013 at 1:37 pm
(January 28, 2013 at 9:14 pm)Christian Wrote: God needs to be put before everything. Reason should come from God and not the other way around. Once we put God in the centre, everything becomes clear.This is probably what non-believers lack. They start off presumption without God and that's where all reasoning comes crushing down to earth. I hope the above is clear.

Lets discuss.

Y'know, I'm beginning to suspect you're having us on. Cool Shades
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
January 29, 2013 at 2:02 pm (This post was last modified: January 29, 2013 at 2:03 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(January 28, 2013 at 10:53 pm)Christian Wrote:
(January 28, 2013 at 10:40 pm)Faith No More Wrote: It is not. Are you saying that before I can reason that god exists I must first accept that god exists?

Exactly, Mister Sir Faith No More.

That's why you are full of shit.
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
February 1, 2013 at 5:28 pm
(January 28, 2013 at 9:14 pm)Christian Wrote: God needs to be put before everything. Reason should come from God and not the other way around. Once we put God in the centre, everything becomes clear.This is probably what non-believers lack. They start off presumption without God and that's where all reasoning comes crushing down to earth. I hope the above is clear.

Lets discuss.
Exactly the wrong way round. You have to assume an atheistic outlook in order to reason at all, including reasoning to a god. If you do not assume atheism and do not hold reality as an absolute, you have to concede that a consciousness (god) could be having you on, that you may not exist, that you live in a cartoon universe which can be altered whimsically by an entity just wishing it so. Thus without atheistic outlook you cannot rely on your faculties at all. Building on this it an atheistic outlook would include self evident propositions that existence, exists that it does so independently of my mind (or anyone else's) and that the universe is uniform. Neither of these conceptual propositions require demonstrating as there denial requires you to exist in a uniform universe. Reality is an absolute and you cannot escape it by wishing a god into existence.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
February 1, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Oh Captain, I can see you haven't known Christian long.

He's not going to have a fucking clue what you're talking about. You're gonna have to dumb it waaay down .... and then assume that he still won't pay any attention to it. Undecided
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
February 1, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Any bullshit will seem absolutely true to he who is dumb enough to put it at the center of everything.
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RE: God as the Centre of Everything
February 2, 2013 at 1:02 pm
(February 1, 2013 at 5:36 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Oh Captain, I can see you haven't known Christian long.

He's not going to have a fucking clue what you're talking about. You're gonna have to dumb it waaay down .... and then assume that he still won't pay any attention to it. Undecided
OK here goes.

Christian exists, his god does not and can not exist.
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