10 years after the Iraq war.

[Minimalist]

So in the end, there is no hypocracy coming from the US when it doesnt send Rumsfeld and dumbo to the Hague.

I don't give a flying fuck about the Hague. Bush and his gang of lying dickheads should have been tried right here for what they did to the US with their lies.

[Anomalocaris]

I have a opinion on this subject and a answere to the question if the Iraq war was a success or not.

It was very successful for both Iran and Taliban. Neither could ever have attained the influence and power they hold today without the Iraq war. They can hardly find the words to thank us for our generosity and promise to spare no gloat when we leave.

[Faith No More]

I feel somewhat vindicated that I called bullshit from the very beginning when the Bush administration was making its case. Unfortunately, I think the bloodlust from 9/11 clouded so many people's judgment, which is what the Bush administration preyed upon and why the war found any public support at all.

The worst part is that any of the high ranking members of the Bush administration will still contend that it was all worthwhile. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence the Republicans can never admit to committing a mistake.

[TaraJo]

Their own capitalism bited them in the ass.

Did it?

Wealthy security companies still made a fortune sending unofficial troops to Iraq. Defense contractors still made a lot of money building the weapons we need to wage war. I'd say the capitalists got just what they wanted: money. If it weakened the country, they don't care; they just want to line their own pockets, regardless of the cost to the rest of us.

Me, I still remember being the only one who was against the war back in 2002/2003 and I kept telling myself that one of these days, I'm going to be able to look back and feel a kind of satisfaction that I was right all along. Turns out I was right, but I don't really feel satisfaction over it.

I also hate how the Iraq war was used politically. Anyone remember the 2002 midterms? Which political party was pushing for war with Iraq? How about the 2004 elections? Which party ran on the 'war-with-Iraq-is-a-good-idea' platform? This is the Republican's war, make no mistake on that one.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Based on his previous history, how many civilians would Saddam Hussein have murdered in the last ten years had the allies not intervened?

[CapnAwesome]

It was an absurd war started by an absurd man.

The ramifications from it will haunt us for a century.... and sad to say at least 30% of the population of the US have learned absolutely nothing from it.

I would say a majority. If a majority of Americans HAD learned from it, we'd be calling for an indictment of W's cabinet.

I think even today, saying "Bush lied us into a war" is pooh-poohed as "shrill". I haven't checked lately but that was the consensus just a few years ago.

For those outside my country seeking to understand how that's possible, our corporate owned media cheer-led the war during the run-up and then swept it all under the rug when the dust settled and it turned out all of Bush's wild claims weren't even sort-of true. The media elites in America apparently studied "Pravda" (former Soviet propaganda ministry) carefully. How ironic then that today, to be an informed American, you have to go to foreign sources of media like Russia Today.

Forgive us world, we know not what we do.

I don't give Obama or you guys much more credit. The whole argument that "Well now we are there, so we have to keep on killing and building and bombing and killing, but at least we didn't start it!" Doesn't carry a lot of weight with me.

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Based on his previous history, how many civilians would Saddam Hussein have murdered in the last ten years had the allies not intervened?

The US has killed far more people in Iraq than Saddam Hussein ever did. For some of the whiny liberals who think it's all the fault of George Bush, the sauctions that Clinton kept in place and supported killed 500,000 people. All U.S. administrations of been responsible for horrible suffering in Iraq.

[jstrodel]

Few things have made me as angry in my entire life. I have never seen the US government be so incompetent.

[The Grand Nudger]

You didn't strike me as a person who would take offense to incompetence. Well, color me wrong on that count. I still don't think that anyone involved was as incompetent as we might like them to be, just that the alternative is unconscionable, and so some of us refuse or prefer to leave it unconsidered

[Minimalist]

Few things have made me as angry in my entire life. I have never seen the US government be so incompetent.

Too young for Vietnam, huh?

[KichigaiNeko]

Speaking of lies

Full article link
US tried to napalm truth in justifying the Iraq war
Date
March 19, 2013

The war was built on lies and the US has been exposed.

The senior officer in the artillery unit to which I was assigned was a decent man of few words who was sitting with me in a Humvee.
With Hyland listening I turned to him and asked whether there was any doubt napalm was used in the attack on Safwan Hill.
''Correct, napalm,'' he replied.


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