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Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am
I am black, and even in some part descended from slaves.
However, I will say this. I don't give a shit about "slavery". This for the following reasons:
- Human beings are cruel. Get over it. We're a savage species at our root. Just a cursory glance at how we behave lends to this.
- Most blacks who claim to hate whites over slavery are total hypocrites. If racism is bad, then it cannot be used to serve your own agenda. If something is deemed wrong, it cannot be right when YOU use it. You are no better than the racist "evil" (lulz.. evil doesn't even exist) white people.
- What does being angry do exactly? Will your anger travel back in time to 1750 or whenever, unshackle your ancestor on the slave ship and send him or her back to Africa?
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 9:54 am
I agree with most of what you say.
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: - Human beings are cruel. Get over it. We're a savage species at our root. Just a cursory glance at how we behave lends to this. Agreed, humans being are cruel, but that's no excuse for slavery. We should certainly moan and whine (and more) about slavery when it still happens across the world.
Quote:- Most blacks who claim to hate whites over slavery are total hypocrites. If racism is bad, then it cannot be used to serve your own agenda. If something is deemed wrong, it cannot be right when YOU use it. You are no better than the racist "evil" (lulz.. evil doesn't even exist) white people.
Anyone who hates an entire race (or gender, or age-group, or nationality, or religion, or political movement, etc.) because of something an often small subset of them do is being illogical. No good comes from extending your hatred to people who have no involvement with the thing you hate. Not all white people were slave owners or even supported slavery, and a vast majority of white people these days think slavery is repulsive and find the actions of their ancestors disgusting.
And yes, reverse discrimination is not somehow allowable because you (or your people) were once discriminated against. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Quote:- What does being angry do exactly? Will your anger travel back in time to 1750 or whenever, unshackle your ancestor on the slave ship and send him or her back to Africa?
No, for that you need the Doctor. :-)
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 11:15 am
Morals are subjective, nay they don't even exist. If slavery came back tomorrow, there is nothing anybody can say to categorically dismiss it. What is objective though is that humans are cruel. This may not justify cruelty, but surely a healthy person (unlike black people who say racism is wrong yet hate white people based on past "atrocities" lol...) realises how people get on/behave.
I personally don't give a shit about "atrocities", as stated people are cruel and it's in our nature to be so.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 12:44 pm
(May 12, 2013 at 11:15 am)dazzn Wrote: Morals are subjective, nay they don't even exist. If slavery came back tomorrow, there is nothing anybody can say to categorically dismiss it. What is objective though is that humans are cruel. This may not justify cruelty, but surely a healthy person (unlike black people who say racism is wrong yet hate white people based on past "atrocities" lol...) realises how people get on/behave.
I personally don't give a shit about "atrocities", as stated people are cruel and it's in our nature to be so. You wouldn't be saying that if you were the subject of an atrocity, you sadistic, disgusting human being.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm
(May 12, 2013 at 12:44 pm)mo66 Wrote: (May 12, 2013 at 11:15 am)dazzn Wrote: Morals are subjective, nay they don't even exist. If slavery came back tomorrow, there is nothing anybody can say to categorically dismiss it. What is objective though is that humans are cruel. This may not justify cruelty, but surely a healthy person (unlike black people who say racism is wrong yet hate white people based on past "atrocities" lol...) realises how people get on/behave.
I personally don't give a shit about "atrocities", as stated people are cruel and it's in our nature to be so. You wouldn't be saying that if you were the subject of an atrocity, you sadistic, disgusting human being.
Really? And this is why modern society says that morals are arbitrary and nothing matters? lol..
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 1:22 pm
You make it sound as if it is a thing of the past.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 2:19 pm
meh. what makes their subjective morals superior to yours?
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Hmmm, I wonder if you are talking about slavery in general or what? I'm white and I "piss and moan" about slavery because it's fucking horrible and disgusting. I do agree, however, that it is no excuse to go ahead and reverse the hate that made allowances for it to begin with.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 2:46 pm
I'll begrudge one group for moaning about slavery when the other uniformly abandons support for the same. I'm lookin at you, Cletus. Fucking bastards, besmirching the good name and character of the south.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
May 12, 2013 at 9:38 pm
(May 12, 2013 at 2:22 pm)Shell B Wrote: Hmmm, I wonder if you are talking about slavery in general or what? I'm white and I "piss and moan" about slavery because it's fucking horrible and disgusting. I do agree, however, that it is no excuse to go ahead and reverse the hate that made allowances for it to begin with.
Morality is anything one makes it to be. Those who perpetuate slavery are no "lesser" than those who "suffer" from it. Morals are merely like choices in ice cream or movies, purely subjective.
Black Americans should acknowledge the hypocrisy of hating "whitey" and then condemning racism as "evil".
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