Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism

[Godscreated]

Jesus made himself human, and lived on earth with the same temptations we have. If at any point He had sinned He would of been condemned for it forever, because without His sinless life there is nothing to save from sins.

He also knew the consequences with certainty, right? We don't have that luxury. And who is it that would have condemned him forever?

I know the consequences for certain, so me knowing this how are you exempt?

I'll precede this by saying again that I haven't done an in-depth study of hell...
But I have studied God's holiness and I understand this much:
If God is holy and perfect and all that stuff, and sin is rebellion against God, then God doesn't need to go out of His way to toss us into hell - all that has to happen is for Him to let us carry on, and without Jesus to atone for our sin, it's as impossible for us to live in God's presence as it is for darkness to stay in a room when the light is turned on.

So your version of God isn't omnipresent?

I do not think he was saying that. God is omnipresent, what would make you think different? Beside the reason of you do not believe.

God gave us breath, and life, so even now we all have something of Him in us, sustaining us. This is why the first recorded name we have for God (YHWH, or Yahweh), is actually pronounced as a breath in, and a breath out. Whether we like it or not, our every breath is a tribute to our Creator.
Sin is absence of God; the two cannot co-exist.

The Bible says that all are sinners and fall short of the glory of God. If God can't coexist with sin, he isn't in anyone.

God the Father will not be, the Holy Spirit can and does. Paul tells us that sin will quench the Holy Spirit.

God simply allows us free will, and as we choose darkness He distances Himself from us and lets us make our decisions, for the duration of our lives.

Why? What's the point? What does God want, that justifies this kind of inane system?

He wants us to love Him and the only way love can exist is freely. Forced love is nothing more than slavery of one's feelings, and that would be a delusion for the one wanting the love.

[Minimalist]

Paul tells us that sin will quench the Holy Spirit.

"Paul" says a lot of stupid shit. Obviously you fall for it.

[Ryantology]

If fictional God wants us to love him, he needs to do a much better job than he is doing. I'm not impressed.

[Bad Writer]

Well, you're not a goat herder, Ryan. That being said, I'm unimpressed that you're unimpressed.

[Brakeman]

Paul tells us that sin will quench the Holy Spirit.

So a printing company sold a bible book to the bookstore, you received it, unknowing the origin of the copyists, translators, copyists, notationists, editors, canonizers, scribes, or original author's of the writ. Oblivious to each person's beliefs and motives, you ascribe words to a quasi-fictional man named "Paul" who in the story converses to god and speaks for god. This Paul must have had conversations with god in a different manner than DRICH because the gospels hadn't yet been written to speak to god through them. No, Paul would have had to actually converse with god in a two way conversation to acquire the information that he relayed to his story teller.

Do you talk to god in the same way that Paul supposedly could? In actual words with precise information relayed?

[downbeatplumb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74SQ6w6LdU0