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Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?

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Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
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#431
RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 25, 2013 at 8:31 pm
(August 25, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:
(August 25, 2013 at 7:56 pm)discipulus Wrote: And what will happen to you upon your death?

Hmm...I don't know for sure. But I don't remember what happened before I was born and that doesn't seem bad, so I guess I must assume that it will be similar to that, if not the same. I have a subjective sense of a state in which I am not alive, I will assume without penalty that the latter state will be the same. Next question!

Hmm...ok....

Will I suffer the same fate?
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 25, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Everyone dies.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 25, 2013 at 8:47 pm (This post was last modified: August 25, 2013 at 8:52 pm by The Reality Salesman01.)
I can't speak for what is subjectively true for you. That would be silly.
I think you've recognized that this is turning out differently than you expected, eh? A little humility and admitted ignorance goes a long way.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 25, 2013 at 9:02 pm
(August 25, 2013 at 8:47 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: I can't speak for what is subjectively true for you. That would be silly.
I think you've recognized that this is turning out differently than you expected, eh? A little humility and admitted ignorance goes a long way.

Thus far, everything is going as I expected actually. I am not really asking you anything out of the ordinary.

So you cannot say whether or not we will both have the same experience upon our death?
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 25, 2013 at 9:24 pm
I'm going to take another stab at this prophecy thing: discipulus' big reveal will be that atheists aren't sure of what they believe in so they're actually just like theists.

Am I close?
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm
(August 25, 2013 at 9:24 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I'm going to take another stab at this prophecy thing: discipulus' big reveal will be that atheists aren't sure of what they believe in so they're actually just like theists.

Am I close?

No.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 25, 2013 at 10:52 pm


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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 26, 2013 at 5:59 am
(August 25, 2013 at 11:59 am)discipulus Wrote: For the one unwilling to believe, nothing will convince them.

Nor the one determined to believe.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 26, 2013 at 6:05 am (This post was last modified: August 26, 2013 at 6:05 am by Sword of Christ.)
It's better to not be determined to do anything beyond have a determination to know what is actually true. It is thoroughly possible to come to a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence and philosophical argument to conclude that atheism/naturalism while it can't be 100% discounted like any metaphysical belief is very unlikely to be true.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 26, 2013 at 6:07 am
(August 26, 2013 at 6:05 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: It's better to not be determined to do anything beyond have a determination to know what is actually true. It is thoroughly possible to come to a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence and philosophical argument to conclude that atheism/naturalism while it can't be 100% discounted like any metaphysical belief is very unlikely to be true.

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