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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 10, 2013 at 9:26 am
(September 10, 2013 at 9:02 am)Max_Kolbe Wrote: What evidence do you have that you have read the bible more than me? I've never even said I've read the bible. Shouldn't our answers be based on clear, sound, provable evidence?
How stupid of him for assuming you have read you own holy book. Yea you are totally right, that was a stupid assumption.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 10, 2013 at 9:37 am
(September 10, 2013 at 9:26 am)Rationalman Wrote: (September 10, 2013 at 9:02 am)Max_Kolbe Wrote: What evidence do you have that you have read the bible more than me? I've never even said I've read the bible. Shouldn't our answers be based on clear, sound, provable evidence?
How stupid of him for assuming you have read you own holy book. Yea you are totally right, that was a stupid assumption.
The assumption was that he has read the bible MORE than me.
I never said it was a stupid assumption. It is an assumption, but it wasn't stupid.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 10, 2013 at 10:48 am
Max, it would be helpful if you let us know what your views of heaven and hell are, and, more importantly, how you define the god you worship. That will hopefully keep us from lumping you in with other Christians, as it's becoming apparent that you don't follow your holy book in precisely the same way they do.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 10, 2013 at 11:22 am
(September 10, 2013 at 9:37 am)Max_Kolbe Wrote: I never said it was a stupid assumption. It is an assumption, but it wasn't stupid.
When you said: 'I've never even said I've read the bible' it appeared as if you were scolding him for assuming that you had.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 10, 2013 at 11:51 am
I like this Max fellow; I don't think we should scare him away just yet. We definitely need more info on where he's coming from though.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 15, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Holy shit this thread is like the size of the unity mega thread on the Ubuntu forums.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 15, 2013 at 4:29 pm
did you read alllll of it?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 15, 2013 at 5:14 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 4:29 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: did you read alllll of it?
No but I will try if i have time
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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