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A true Christian
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A true Christian
Something I have been wondering about since many Christians often make appeals to purity is what is a true Christian?
What does a true Christian do?
What does a true Christian believe?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: A true Christian
According to them a true Christian will never doubt and/or walk away from the faith. According to common doctrine, they hold to the principle in the faith known as the preservation of the saints they are also known as the elect. The names and definitions vary semantically in minor ways however the basic premise remains. So to sum up the belief, they believe that a "true Christian" will always be in tune with the holy spirit and his soul/heart is 100% dedicated and loyal to Christ. So when a Christian "deconverts" they often refer to them as being luke warm the whole time, or not believing with all their soul. It is a method to basically limit the amount of deconverts who were strong Christians, like myself. I was a strong christian and good apologetic and gained a lot of respect from the atheistic community, when I deconverted I was told I never was dedicated which was offensive to a person like myself.. If the christians here read this I am sure they will respond in that predicable manner.
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I would be a televangelist....but I have too much of a soul.
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#3
RE: A true Christian
A true Christian is always the Christian you are talking to at the time.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#4
RE: A true Christian
Wouldn't you need a true Christ to determine who is or is not a true Christian?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#5
RE: A true Christian
There's no such thing as a true Christian. Protestants don't think Catholics are true Christians, Catholics don't think protestants are true Christians, the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't think anyone but themselves are true Christians, and other Christians don't think that the WBC are true Christians. Ask any of them if they're true Christians and they'll affirm it, but ask other Christians who disagree with them and they'll say no.

Or if we're going to argue that there is such a thing as a true Christian, then it's someone who exemplifies good, moral, Christian living, but as soon as they fuck up and do something bad they're no longer true Christians.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#6
RE: A true Christian
Just about every true Christian believes he alone is the true Christian while other Christians are not true Christians.

How to find the true Christian among so many false ones appears to be quite the daunting task.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: A true Christian
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RE: A true Christian
They're flatulent assholes who love their stink so much they just have to share. Of course, when some other asshole does the same, they pucker up with indignation.
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RE: A true Christian
(September 19, 2013 at 3:27 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Something I have been wondering about since many Christians often make appeals to purity is what is a true Christian?
What does a true Christian do?
What does a true Christian believe?

For sure, and without a doubt...

I was the only "true christian" I
ever knew... maybe my wife too Smile
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RE: A true Christian
(September 19, 2013 at 5:50 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: I was the only "true christian" I
ever knew... maybe my wife too Smile
Can you explain more about what this was like? I was raised by atheists and never even flirted with a god, so I don't understand it. For those of you who have been on both sides- what's it like to have that moral certainty? What's it like to lose it?
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