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Atheist or really Agnostic
#91
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
(October 1, 2013 at 8:57 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: You already have refused to accept a burden of proof for your claims. That proves you cannot.

Being an agnostic atheist, I have no burden to shoulder. This has already been explained to you by multiple people in this thread, so I am forced to consider this a dishonest argument from you.

Quote:I am just starting.

How about you continue by answering my previous objections earlier in this thread?

Or, you know, doing anything other than flatly asserting that the bible is true without providing anything else. What's your evidence for god, there?
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#92
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
He's got a book, silly!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#93
Re: Atheist or really Agnostic
The Bible is true. There is no mention of Jesus' s divinity in the Bible. Therefore, Jesus wasn't a divine being.

I can play this game, too!
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#94
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
(October 1, 2013 at 8:57 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 8:35 am)Esquilax Wrote: Given that you've completely failed to justify your belief in the bible thus far, not to mention address the contentions that I and many others have had over the past nine pages, that's the one possibility that we know isn't true.

You already have refused to accept a burden of proof for your claims. That proves you cannot.

I am just starting.

Well you'd better improve quite a bit as no-one here is being convinced other than you.

In the meantime a question:

If you are trying to convince us that there is a god (your specific God of course) and you are not succeeding why isn't God helping you more?
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#95
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
Well perhaps there is a God but it disavows the bible? If that is right, it would have no interest in helping bible apologists.
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#96
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
(October 1, 2013 at 9:32 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: The Bible is true. There is no mention of Jesus' s divinity in the Bible. Therefore, Jesus wasn't a divine being.

I can play this game, too!

There are many places in the Bible where Jesus Christ is declared God. Here is just a couple.

Obviously Jesus would have corrected Thomas if Jesus was not God. He did not. So Jesus is God.

John 20:28-29
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Revelation 1:7-8
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

John 1:1-3, 10-14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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#97
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
(October 1, 2013 at 10:34 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: There are many places in the Bible where Jesus Christ is declared God. Here is just a couple.

Obviously Jesus would have corrected Thomas if Jesus was not God. He did not. So Jesus is God.

Or Jesus was lying, or mistaken, or the book is fictional. You haven't excluded any of those possibilities, you know.
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#98
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
All I have to say is, stupid or really stupid?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#99
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
(October 1, 2013 at 10:34 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Obviously Jesus would have corrected Thomas if Jesus was not God. He did not. So Jesus is God.

Affirming the consequent fallacy.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
All things that were made were made by him means he created evil or the capability of evil and then created hell to place all who are evil which he created. . . wow! what a lover of my soul
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