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#101
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 11:31 am
(October 1, 2013 at 11:10 am)Searching4truth Wrote: All things that were made were made by him means he created evil or the capability of evil and then created hell to place all who are evil which he created. . . wow! what a lover of my soul

Jesus created free will being not robots.
The free will beings do the evil.
Therefore there is a judgment to come.
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#102
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 11:42 am
(October 1, 2013 at 11:31 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 11:10 am)Searching4truth Wrote: All things that were made were made by him means he created evil or the capability of evil and then created hell to place all who are evil which he created. . . wow! what a lover of my soul

Jesus created free will being not robots.
The free will beings do the evil.
Therefore there is a judgment to come.

Insert the word "allegedly" in front of each of your statements and you instantly start sounding like an honest person instead of just another cult member with a bridge to sell.

But then again, that level of basic honesty is alien to Christianity, isn't it?
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#103
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 11:56 am
(October 1, 2013 at 11:31 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 11:10 am)Searching4truth Wrote: All things that were made were made by him means he created evil or the capability of evil and then created hell to place all who are evil which he created. . . wow! what a lover of my soul

Jesus created free will being not robots.
The free will beings do the evil.
Therefore there is a judgment to come.

The evil being to exercise that free will and reject Jesus and his dad.

Catch 22 with knobs on.
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#104
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 12:11 pm
(October 1, 2013 at 11:31 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 11:10 am)Searching4truth Wrote: All things that were made were made by him means he created evil or the capability of evil and then created hell to place all who are evil which he created. . . wow! what a lover of my soul

Jesus created free will being not robots.
The free will beings do the evil.
Therefore there is a judgment to come.

The "free will" argument, eh? I was thinking about starting a thread about this.

God knows everything that will ever happen. God has a plan for all of us. Therefore, free will is totally negated.

God knew that Eve would be tempted by Satan and eat the apple, and he let it happen. Therefore, God planned on making humans suffer. God knew that the Gospels would be contradictory and cause confusion and argument. So again, God planned on causing mankind pain. It's all in his "plan" which negates free will.

Many Christians tend to forget about God's omnipotence snd omniscience. He's not just some guy sitting in front of the TV wondering what's gonna happen next. He knows all, and plans all.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
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"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 12:24 pm
(October 1, 2013 at 11:31 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 11:10 am)Searching4truth Wrote: All things that were made were made by him means he created evil or the capability of evil and then created hell to place all who are evil which he created. . . wow! what a lover of my soul

Jesus created free will being not robots.
The free will beings do the evil.
Therefore there is a judgment to come.

Isaiah 45:7 Wrote:I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Seriously, are you going to come down from your lofty mountain and actually address anything anyone says to you, or just continue to mouth platitudes (and thus fulfil the prophecy)?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 12:25 pm
Just who is Grace?
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 12:40 pm
I have an aunt Grace!
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
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#108
RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 12:45 pm
(October 1, 2013 at 12:24 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 11:31 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Jesus created free will being not robots.
The free will beings do the evil.
Therefore there is a judgment to come.

Isaiah 45:7 Wrote:I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Seriously, are you going to come down from your lofty mountain and actually address anything anyone says to you, or just continue to mouth platitudes (and thus fulfil the prophecy)?

I'm guessing "no." This one seems dumber than most.
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Oh, he's not dumb, at least in the literal sense. On the contrary he's got a hell of a lot to say for himself. His trouble isn't his mouth, or his brain necessarily. It's his ears.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
October 1, 2013 at 1:58 pm (This post was last modified: October 1, 2013 at 1:58 pm by Kayenneh.)
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Oh, he's not dumb, at least in the literal sense. On the contrary he's got a hell of a lot to say for himself. His trouble isn't his mouth, or his brain necessarily. It's his ears.

Wouldn't it be eyes (and fingers) in this case..? Thinking
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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