Is killing a Pastor always a bad thing?

[pineapplebunnybounce]

I think GC just keeps proving my point again and again. If you're in a position where the only evidence you have cannot be verified by others and yet refuse to admit you could ever be wrong, you're in a very dangerous position. Every time you say "as god intends", since god doesn't exist, it is what you intend. So you read the bible the way you like it, jsut like all the other christians. But you're always right and everyone is always wrong when they contradict you. Because you can't be wrong, god is on your side.

Now you're being flat out dishonest. Me in a dangerous place, I'm in the protective hands of God, I have nothing to fear. You have purposely ignored what I have said because it's the only way you can get around the truth, just like those I was speaking of, you in reality have placed yourself in their shoes, how sad. I've never claimed to know everything about scripture, that's why I need to maintain my relationship with God, I need to learn more about my Savior every day. God is on my side but, yes I can be wrong about things in scripture, that's why I do not post on every thread, unlike some of our all knowing nonbelievers here.

GC

Do you get that I don't believe god exists? Do you get that? Do you understand every time you refer to god i think you're referring to yourself?

And wth are you talking about, you haven't showed that what you're saying is true you just keep repeating it. You think that god teaches you right? That's yourself you're talking about. You think god is never wrong right? That's you too.

[Lion IRC]

Is this a thread about whether the death penalty is the sovereign prerogative of an independent legal jurisdiction - like America for example?

If I thought I could save the life of Hansel and Gretal and prevent a witch from murder/cannibalism, then yes I would have to accept Old Testament law as a last resort.

But I wouldn't kill someone who merely thought they were a witch.

Does anyone here think evil witches like the one in the story of Hansel and Gretal ACTUALLY still exist?

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Is this a thread about whether the death penalty is the sovereign prerogative of an independent legal jurisdiction - like America for example?

If I thought I could save the life of Hansel and Gretal and prevent a witch from murder/cannibalism, then yes I would have to accept Old Testament law as a last resort.

But I wouldn't kill someone who merely thought they were a witch.

Does anyone here think evil witches like the one in the story of Hansel and Gretal ACTUALLY still exist?

[Esquilax]

Educate them, it would be like trying to educate atheist, they care nothing for God or what He teaches, they are out for themselves and nothing more. All we can do is try to expose them for the danger they are, like I said it wouldn't happen here and if it did the Christian church would be the first to condemn them and support their prosecution.

GC

What a complete cop out: you know nothing of these people and what they believe, even when some of them work under the auspices of your church, but that nonexistent level of knowledge has made you feel safe enough to assume that there's nothing you can do. Just admit it: it's just not something you want to deal with, because it's easier to just distance yourself and let the problem go on, covered all the while by your persistent No True Scotsman fallacy.

[Lion IRC]

Since when is capital punishment an atheist cause?

Is it just biblical capital punishment which bothers atheists?

How about the (atheist) Communist Party in China? Wanna tell them who they can and can't punish?

[Esquilax]

Since when is capital punishment an atheist cause?

Since when are we bound to only support specific atheist causes?

Is it just biblical capital punishment which bothers atheists?

Speaking personally, no.

How about the (atheist) Communist Party in China? Wanna tell them who they can and can't punish?

Yes, if I had my way.

[The Reality Salesman01]

No, you're the one implying they are delusional. I'm saying there are those who purposely us the scriptures to their own benefit and couldn't care less about believing in God.

Clearly you know much more about the holiness of The Bible than I. Please teach me so that I may recognize what it is to be Holy.

How can I know that these people are purposely using the scriptures to their own benefit?

How can I discern that they are not being genuine in their interpretation of the text?

For if they benefit from this translation in someway, wouldn't that further cement the value they place on that interpretation?

It seems they could both genuinely interpret it this way while feeling Holy. All the while benefiting from their mistaken relationship with God. This seems to be symbiotic.

Tell me what this single standard upon which all that is Holy rests so that I don't make the same mistake as them.

I'm sure that many know more and greater truths from the scriptures however people that kill children for being witches are not some of those people, they do not look at the whole of scripture as God teaches it, if they did they would understand that the greatest power they have is prayer.

I'm sorry, but again, how do you know that your interpretation is correct? Teach me so that I may know.

Enlighten me on how it is that I may discover the same truths that you so clearly understand. What does it mean to be holy? How can I be sure that I am praying right? These people must clearly be doing it wrong, and without your knowledge, I will be subject to making the same mistake. Perhaps if you tell me exactly how I can recognize the quality of being holy, I can avoid misdirecting my prayers.

The one I see as delusional is you, and that does come from scripture.

Clearly. Excuse my ignorance and share with me your knowledge.

[bladevalant546]

I say when the law fails to enact justice, then it is the natural moral responsiblity to enact that justice. You do it with out mercy or quarter. Basically, that is a editted qoute from The Punisher, sometimes it is best to enact justice if the system fails. I think it is okay to kill to protect the innocent.

[Doubting Thomas]

Does anyone here think evil witches like the one in the story of Hansel and Gretal ACTUALLY still exist?

Fixed that for you.

[Lemonvariable72]

Is this a thread about whether the death penalty is the sovereign prerogative of an independent legal jurisdiction - like America for example?

If I thought I could save the life of Hansel and Gretal and prevent a witch from murder/cannibalism, then yes I would have to accept Old Testament law as a last resort.

But I wouldn't kill someone who merely thought they were a witch.

Does anyone here think evil witches like the one in the story of Hansel and Gretal ACTUALLY still exist?

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Is this a thread about whether the death penalty is the sovereign prerogative of an independent legal jurisdiction - like America for example?

If I thought I could save the life of Hansel and Gretal and prevent a witch from murder/cannibalism, then yes I would have to accept Old Testament law as a last resort.

But I wouldn't kill someone who merely thought they were a witch.

Does anyone here think evil witches like the one in the story of Hansel and Gretal ACTUALLY still exist?

You think witches like that were actually real?

[Zazzy]

Since when is capital punishment an atheist cause?

There are no "atheist causes" that I'm aware of.

Is it just biblical capital punishment which bothers atheists?

Atheists don't subscribe to a list of specific tenets. You've been here longer than I have,so it should be clear to you by now how very different atheists are from one another aside from lacking belief.