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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
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(November 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm)Faith No More Wrote: This is one of the reasons Christianity is so popular. It is the great guilt assuager. Everyone makes mistakes, but believing in divine forgiveness is the simple way to ease your conscience without having to actually rectify the problems you've caused.
I mean, who cares if you ran over someone's dog with your car and sped away? Jesus forgives you, and that's all that matters.
The one problem with your assessment is "who".
If it were a true Christian that ran over someones dog, he would "care".
You see a [true] Chrisitian, "who cares"...would do everything he could to repair the situation and his error.... Except forgive himself!
So in actuality... THE MESSAGE is to forgive yourself, because God forgives you.
To believe that God forgives someone who doesn't care in their hearts is just dumb! And it gives God no credit at all for being able to see into that persons heart!
Quis ut Deus?
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm
No true Christian would ever use the "no true Christian" argument.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm
(November 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Faith No More Wrote: No true Christian would ever use the "no true Christian" argument.
But would a true Scotsman?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 4, 2013 at 6:41 pm
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(November 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Faith No More Wrote: No true Christian would ever use the "no true Christian" argument.
Right, that's what some of the atheists use.
Care to play a game?
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
I see you're busy, maybe later.
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm
(November 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm)ronedee Wrote: If it were a true Christian that ran over someones dog, he would "care".
You see a [true] Chrisitian, "who cares"...would do everything he could to repair the situation and his error.... Except forgive himself!
So in actuality... THE MESSAGE is to forgive yourself, because God forgives you.
So True Christians, TM, have a problem forgiving themselves when they do shity things to others? -- That I have just got to see!
So they , OF COURSE, would care enough to be loving to their neighbor, but wouldn't be caring enough to themselves to remember to forgive themselves? Why would that be? Is there something in the christian theology that makes them feel unworthy and self-loathing? Oh wait, I remember! That's how the whole bag of garbage is sold in the first place, by preying on people's insecurities!
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 5, 2013 at 12:55 am
What fits the criteria of a true Christian and what is it based on? Is it regulated? If not why not? If so how so?
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 5, 2013 at 1:03 am
(November 5, 2013 at 12:55 am)ToriJ Wrote: What fits the criteria of a true Christian and what is it based on? Is it regulated? If not why not? If so how so?
A true christian is whichever christian your talking to at that moment.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
November 5, 2013 at 1:33 am
(November 5, 2013 at 12:55 am)ToriJ Wrote: What fits the criteria of a true Christian and what is it based on? Is it regulated? If not why not? If so how so?
Don't get me started. 
I'm undeafed at the True Christian™ game.
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