Islam IS the true religion of humanity.

[Minimalist]

He was not illiterate. That's a lie believed by Sunnis.
Many say his wife Aisha was 19 but if she was 9, girls at that married at that age. They had different roles within society. They did not act like young kids or had the benefit of being a kid until they were 17-18

First of all I don't give any more of a shit about the various sects of islam than I do the various sects of xtianity. It's all crap and I guess you are a shiite which means you are still pissed off because the wrong guy got named "caliph" 13 centuries ago. That's pretty fucking stupid and certainly not worth blowing each other up about.

As far as the rest of it goes, I suggest you get your story straight before you try to present it. All ancient superstitions are pointless in the modern world but if you can't agree among yourselves why would you expect anyone else to accept your word for it?

I find Robert Spencer's thesis far more compelling. Mohammed was a later heroic figure created by the power structure to unify disparate tribes and the peoples they conquered. There is no fucking god involved. Just human ambition and greed.

[KichigaiNeko]

Ohh Myyy! this is delicious!

After pursuing various issues Spencer sums up what we know about the traditional account of Muhammad’s life and the early days of Islam.

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No record of Muhammad’s reported death in 632 appears until more than a century after that date.
A Christian account apparently dating from the mid-630s speaks of an Arab prophet “armed with a sword” who seems to be still alive.
The early accounts written by the people the Arabs conquered never mention Islam, Muhammad, or the Qur’an. They call the conquerors “Ishmaelites,” “Saracens,” “Muhajirun,” and “Hagarians” but never “Muslims.”
The Arab conquerors, in their coins and inscriptions, don’t mention Islam or the Qur’an for the first six decades of their conquests. Mentions of “Muhammad” are non-specific and on at least two occasions are accompanied by a cross. The word can be used not only as a proper name but also as an honorific.
The Qur’an, even by the canonical Muslim account, was not distributed in its present form until the 650’s. Contradicting that standard account is the fact that neither the Arabian nor the Christians and Jews in the region mention the Qur’an until the early eighth century.
During the reign of the caliph Muawiya (661-680), the Arabs constructed at least one public building whose inscription was headed by a cross.
We begin hearing about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, and about Islam itself in the 690’s, during the reign of the caliph Abd al-Malik. Coins and inscriptions reflecting Islamic beliefs begin to appear at this time also.
Around the same time, Arabic became the predominant written language of the Arabian Empire, supplanting Syriac and Greek.
Abd al-Malik claimed, in a passing remark in one hadith, to have collected the Qur’an, contradicting Islamic tradition that the collection was the work of the caliph Uthman forty years earlier.
Multiple hadiths report that Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, governor of Iraq during the reign of Abd al-Malik, edited the Qur’an and distributed his new edition to the various Arab-controlled provinces--- again, something Uthman is supposed to have done decades earlier.
Even some Islamic traditions maintain that certain common Islamic practices, such as the recitation of the Qur’an during mosque prayers, date from orders of Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, not to the earlier period of Islamic history.
In the middle of the eighth century, the Abbasid dynastic supplanted the Umayyad line of Abd al-Malik. The Abbasids charged the Umayyads with impiety on a large scale. In the Abbasid period, biographical material about Mohammed began to proliferate. The first complete biography of the prophet of Islam finally appeared during this era—at least 125 years after the traditional date of his death.

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The biographical material that emerged situates Muhammad in an area of Arabia that never was the centre for trade and pilgrimage that the canonical Islamic account of Islam’s origin depend on it to be. (pp.205-206)

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Shades of judaism and xtianity?

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He concludes: “A careful investigation makes at least one thing clear: The details of Muhammad’s life that have been handed down as canonical—that he unified Arabia by the force of arms, concluded alliances, married wives, legislated for his community, and did so much else—are a creation of political ferment dating from long after the time he is supposed to have lived. Similarly, the records strongly indicate that the Qur’an did not exist until long after it was supposed to have been delivered to the prophet of Islam.”

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My conclusion? The OP is correct insofar as religion, the whole bloody murderous, unscientific, anti-human lot of it, is true of humanity's children.

And THEN SOME of us have grown up and the numbers are on the rise

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I love you Min!

[Minimalist]

Don't tell Z/B, darlin'.

[freedomfromforum]

I slam, airplanes into buildings.

I slam, my wife in the head for asking questions.

I slam, my son to the ground for not filling his pockets
with nails and rat poison, and strapping himself with
explosives and boarding a bus full of infidels. I slam.

Islam.

[Captain Colostomy]

Since the advent of the bahà'u'llàh, any mohammedans that remain so today are ignoring allah's will. Shame and woe unto you, OP.

That allah is a mental construct and just a silly, silly concept is besides the point.

[FallentoReason]

Allah is the omnipotent. The only problems that exist are the ones you create yourself, that dwell within yourself. There is no problem associated with Allah.

Omniscience + omnipotence:

By virtue of being all-knowing, God can't possibly learn anything, because he already knows everything there is to know. This means there's something he can't do, but he's supposed to be all-powerful.

Contradiction.

That's just one problem there off the top of my head.

[Minimalist]

See what happens when you do away with the "no preaching" rule.

[Esquilax]

What you are saying is nonsensical. You don't have your cake and eat it too.You either believe or you don't. You either have faith or you don't. The difference between you and me is not that I have seen God with my own eyes, but that I have faith in God. Those who do not have faith in God deny his existence. I'm not going off empirical scientific evidence.

Well, there's a third option, which is that you neither believe nor deny. It's called, you know, keeping an open mind? I don't believe in your god, but I don't deny him either; I can be convinced that he exists with evidence. Not faith, though: faith is just an excuse for believing without evidence. It's just pretending to know things.

You're asking exactly the wrong questions. Why is Islam the religion of God? Because it is the most logical. I don't know what type of answer you're looking for but I can tell you it's the wrong answer as it is not unjustified to say there is one God because God is the Most Supreme Being in the Universe and there are none like Him.

If your religion is the most logical, you can demonstrate why that is. If you can't do that, your religion is not the most logical. All you've done so far is claim there can only be one god, but you can't even say why that is.

Oh, and by the way, logical isn't the same as factual: logic can be wrong if you feed in the wrong facts.

Also, woo, three thousand posts!

[Esquilax]

See what happens when you do away with the "no preaching" rule.

It's all covered under the spam rule now, and believe me, I'm keeping an eye out. If we keep getting book passages back, I'll be the first to report it.

[KichigaiNeko]

Don't tell Z/B, darlin'.

Oh he knows.