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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 12:48 pm
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(November 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (November 15, 2013 at 12:21 pm)wallym Wrote: I'm a twatwaffle. The Gods that humans have come up with are silly. Screw physical proof, just some common sense about God's alleged nature should be enough. Since no two theists can agree on the nature of their deity, and get worked up about other theists misrepresenting their god, I'd prefer to let them hash out a common working definition before saying I know anything for sure.
I'm only looking at the subset of 'God's that would matter. That crosses out some of the weird things like God is Love (who cares), and a disinterested God (again, who cares).
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 12:52 pm
Bob Seger has a song about this. I'm with him...just because I can identify with a number doesn't mean I like the idea.
I prefer the biblical take: 'I am that I am, bitches'.
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 12:53 pm
I don't even know what a god is, let alone to believe in it. I hear the magic claims from the various religions, found no reason to believe such nonsense.
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Nobody likes identifying as a 7 but Id think more are than they say (not just on here, just in general). The whole "you don't know" thing. But absolute knowledge isn't possible yet we have no problem saying that we know Santa Clause isn't real. That pink unicorns aren't real, etc
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Like Nigel Tufnel...i like to go up to 11. The whole idea of a scale of agnosticism-atheism just sounds too stupid. How does one measure atheism? How much does atheism weigh? Further proof that Dawkins just lost his mind
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Because 11 is one louder than 10.
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 3:03 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 12:57 pm)Wunsbee Wrote: Nobody likes identifying as a 7 but Id think more are than they say (not just on here, just in general). The whole "you don't know" thing. But absolute knowledge isn't possible yet we have no problem saying that we know Santa Clause isn't real. That pink unicorns aren't real, etc
As you say. That one cannot easily prove a negative does not increase the value of probability however infinitesimal it may be. One could Rank the likelihood by comparison, eg as likely as Thor being real.
I like the uncertainty. It's sets scientists, who are willing to say "we don't know" aside from people who claim certainty in either direction. The total lack of evidence is not total evidence of lack.
Otherwise, it's just equal and opposite dogma.
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 3:13 pm
(November 15, 2013 at 12:57 pm)Wunsbee Wrote: Nobody likes identifying as a 7 but Id think more are than they say (not just on here, just in general). The whole "you don't know" thing. But absolute knowledge isn't possible yet we have no problem saying that we know Santa Clause isn't real. That pink unicorns aren't real, etc
Indeed. I admit I cannot prove that god does not exist, but I live my life as if there is no god at all. While I am willing to entertain any claims and explanations regarding the various gods that people recognize and worship, I really do not expect that anyone will suddenly knock us all off of our feet with proof of a god.
My impression from forums like this is that the question of what atheist means or what atheists believe is an attempt to force that admission in order to turn the discussion around. If you can get atheists to agree that they know god doesn't exist, then theists can stop the frustrating and wearisome task of trying to prove that god is real, and instead demand that atheists prove the opposite.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 3:18 pm
I'm a 6.5 on the Dawkins scale I'd say.
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RE: How atheist are you
November 15, 2013 at 3:25 pm
I'm like, this much yo:
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