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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm
(December 15, 2013 at 9:38 pm)Nineteen Wrote: This is funny , please can you quote my insult ? I wonder .
You called me mentally disordered earlier on this page, and Sleepy did in every post he made in the last few days. Can you produce a scenario in which that isn't insulting?
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 9:46 pm
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(December 15, 2013 at 9:38 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 15, 2013 at 9:36 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: You and sleepy insulted esq in a personal way too, now show me how has he used mod privelges to prevent you from saying anything?
This is funny , please can you quote my insult ? I wonder .
Sure thing
Nineteen Wrote:Despite all the world knows that homosexuality is a mental disorder.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm
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(December 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You called me mentally disordered earlier on this page, and Sleepy did in every post he made in the last few days. Can you produce a scenario in which that isn't insulting?
I said my opinion about Homo people , this is not genetic and they are mental disordered , they need the psychological therapy . This is not an insult . If I would say homos are idiots , this would be an insult .
Okay , this was my last post for this thread . As salam alaikum .
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 9:51 pm
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In fairness, there's additional context here that Nineteen might not be aware of, regarding conversations I'd had with Sleepy in the past. She might not have known that all of those "gays are unnatural" comments weren't in general, they were aimed at me specifically as a callback to an earlier discussion.
But then, I explained that to her pages ago, so in the end it's more symptomatic of her inability to retain any information that doesn't fit in with her fantasy of the poor persecuted muslims being attacked by the evil atheists. Having a muslim throw the first stone wouldn't be a good look, then. Even if it's what actually happened.
Incidentally Nineteen, psychologists disagree with you; homosexuality hasn't been classified as a mental disorder for years, and so no real psychiatrist would "treat" one for it. Yet another area in which you're profoundly miseducated, then.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 10:13 pm
(December 15, 2013 at 9:51 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Incidentally Nineteen, psychologists disagree with you; homosexuality hasn't been classified as a mental disorder for years, and so no real psychiatrist would "treat" one for it. Yet another area in which you're profoundly miseducated, then.
I'm pretty sure she'd disagree with you either way. Probably time for everyone to let this thread die.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 10:24 pm
(December 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You called me mentally disordered earlier on this page, and Sleepy did in every post he made in the last few days. Can you produce a scenario in which that isn't insulting?
I said my opinion about Homo people , this is not genetic and they are mental disordered , they need the psychological therapy . This is not an insult . If I would say homos are idiots , this would be an insult .
Okay , this was my last post for this thread . As salam alaikum .
Incidentally scientist have possibly found the cause.
http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/ne...sexuality/
Now ill ask agian, how would feel if I said islam is mental disorder and all of its followers need treatment?
Also you consistently accused him of abusing his power without evidence. In my country that is called slander.
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That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 10:25 pm
(December 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You called me mentally disordered earlier on this page, and Sleepy did in every post he made in the last few days. Can you produce a scenario in which that isn't insulting?
I said my opinion about Homo people , this is not genetic and they are mental disordered , they need the psychological therapy . This is not an insult . If I would say homos are idiots , this would be an insult . No, that is an insult. Islam makes people hate others & think there sexuality is wrong. This is the mental disorder. Islam is a disease!
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 10:34 pm
(December 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You called me mentally disordered earlier on this page, and Sleepy did in every post he made in the last few days. Can you produce a scenario in which that isn't insulting?
I said my opinion about Homo people , this is not genetic and they are mental disordered , they need the psychological therapy . This is not an insult . If I would say homos are idiots , this would be an insult .
Okay , this was my last post for this thread . As salam alaikum .
Sorry, but it can't be a mental disorder if it occurs among other creatures besides humans.
I would say that the fundamental dislike of people because of their sexual preferences would qualify more as a mental disorder.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 10:36 pm
(December 15, 2013 at 10:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: (December 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Nineteen Wrote: I said my opinion about Homo people , this is not genetic and they are mental disordered , they need the psychological therapy . This is not an insult . If I would say homos are idiots , this would be an insult .
Okay , this was my last post for this thread . As salam alaikum .
Sorry, but it can't be a mental disorder if it occurs among other creatures besides humans.
I would say that the fundamental dislike of people because of their sexual preferences would qualify more as a mental disorder.
But she was raised in Chechnya so it's not surprising.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 10:39 pm
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(December 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Nineteen Wrote: (December 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You called me mentally disordered earlier on this page, and Sleepy did in every post he made in the last few days. Can you produce a scenario in which that isn't insulting?
I said my opinion about Homo people , this is not genetic and they are mental disordered , they need the psychological therapy . This is not an insult . If I would say homos are idiots , this would be an insult .
Okay , this was my last post for this thread . As salam alaikum .
Darling, you're stuck in the dark ages aren't you? I'm surprised you're even able to use a computer--much less be allowed on one by your kin.
I'll just PM this to you, I feel bad for you that you are so ignorant.
The World knows you're wrong. It's quite embarrassing for you, actually. Try to educate yourself. As a woman in this century, it's up to you to educate your backwards thinking men about things like facts and truth. As I see it, you're just one of their little puppets, if you're even a woman at all which I have big doubts about anyways.
Wikipedia: Wrote:As a result of such accumulated research, professionals in medicine, mental health, and the behavioral and social sciences, oppose the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder, claimed the conclusion that it was inaccurate, and that the DSM classification reflected untested assumptions that were based on once-prevalent social norms and clinical impressions from unrepresentative samples which consisted of patients seeking therapy and individuals whose conduct brought them into the criminal justice system.[1]
American Psychology Association Wrote:What is sexual orientation?
Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors and membership in a community of others who share those attractions. Research over several decades has demonstrated that sexual orientation ranges along a continuum, from exclusive attraction to the other sex to exclusive attraction to the same sex. However, sexual orientation is usually discussed in terms of three categories: heterosexual (having emotional, romantic or sexual attractions to members of the other sex), gay/lesbian (having emotional, romantic or sexual attractions to members of one’s own sex), and bisexual (having emotional, romantic or sexual attractions to both men and women). This range of behaviors and attractions has been described in various cultures and nations throughout the world. Many cultures use identity labels to describe people who express these attractions. In the United States the most frequent labels are lesbians (women attracted to women), gay men (men attracted to men) and bisexual people (men or women attracted to both sexes). However, some people may use different labels or none at all.
Even in 1905 the greatest psychiatric minds knew you are wrong.
Psychology.ucdavis.edu Wrote:Sigmund Freud
Sigmund Freud's basic theory of human sexuality was different from that of Ellis. He believed all human beings were innately bisexual, and that they become heterosexual or homosexual as a result of their experiences with parents and others (Freud, 1905).
In a review of published studies comparing homosexual and heterosexual samples on psychological tests, Gonsiorek (1982) found that, although some differences have been observed in test results between homosexuals and heterosexuals, both groups consistently score within the normal range. Gonsiorek concluded that "Homosexuality in and of itself is unrelated to psychological disturbance or maladjustment. Homosexuals as a group are not more psychologically disturbed on account of their homosexuality" (Gonsiorek, 1982, p. 74; see also reviews by Gonsiorek, 1991; Hart, Roback, Tittler, Weitz, Walston & McKee, 1978; Riess, 1980).
Confronted with overwhelming empirical evidence and changing cultural views of homosexuality, psychiatrists and psychologists radically altered their views, beginning in the 1970s.
In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community in the United States, led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Some psychiatrists who fiercely opposed their action subsequently circulated a petition calling for a vote on the issue by the Association's membership. That vote was held in 1974, and the Board's decision was ratified.
Subsequently, a new diagnosis, ego-dystonic homosexuality, was created for the DSM's third edition in 1980. Ego dystonic homosexuality was indicated by: (1) a persistent lack of heterosexual arousal, which the patient experienced as interfering with initiation or maintenance of wanted heterosexual relationships, and (2) persistent distress from a sustained pattern of unwanted homosexual arousal.
In case you can't read english very well, That last one just stated that The WORLD removed homosexuality from the books as a mental disorder almost 40 years ago, dearie.
It also put IN the books the fact that when you deny your own sexuality (like for religious reasons), it creates mental illness.
Therefore I would conclude that all the religious folks there where you live who are homosexual and punish themselves for being that way, are mentally ill. Let me say that again. Any religion that denies biological FACT, like yours, CREATES mental illness.
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