God says “Love me or die”

[Xyster]

I'm sorry but the BIBLE is written by man, no god inspired this heap... Yes there is alot of good things in the bible but if you pulled out all the good stuff and left the crap out you could prob shrink it to a 25 page easy reader with pics.

IF there was a god he would have to be HIGHLY intellegent and being highly intelligent he would not have to solve all his problems or correct his problem children with death and distruction. Resorting to violence shows LOW intellegence. Im no where neer godly and I can come up with better solutions.

For example: 2kings 2 23-24 ... How that would have been written IF I were god.

From there Elisha went up to Bethel, As he was walking along the road, some men with swords and sheilds came out of the town and jeered at him and said " GO UP BALD HEAD, GO UP BALD HEAD" And Elisha called down a curse in the name of the lord. But the lord being a loving god rasied up 2 dirt twisters from the ground and 3 well placed bolts of lightning between Elisha and the troops. The men dropped there weapons and repented. And the lord gained 42 dedicated deciples that helped to spread his word.

But the original text where little children pose so much threat that god had to strike them down and not only strike them down, but he TERRORIZED them while he did it not to mention the life long torment for the parents... This dose not reflect a godly intelligence but more like a primitive man's thinking. Humm who wrote this book ..OH YEA, man. and primitive at that.. Where High tech ment a stick with a bronze point and a sheild.

[tackattack]

because god always works through she bears in the OT There's more pillars of fire and lightning in the OT but you pick the one passage that finds 2 bears eating children. There's a period between his curse and his observation of bears eating children. He didn't praise God for it afterwards either, like he did every other time God showed his awesome salt pillar powers. You atheists and your crazy bible quotes

[Zen Badger]

because god always works through she bears in the OT There's more pillars of fire and lightning in the OT but you pick the one passage that finds 2 bears eating children. There's a period between his curse and his observation of bears eating children. He didn't praise God for it afterwards either, like he did every other time God showed his awesome salt pillar powers. You atheists and your crazy bible quotes

Well that's ok then.

The pause between the curse and the children being eaten means it's alright.

[Violet]

Well that's ok then.

The pause between the curse and the children being eaten means it's alright.

That seems to suggest it is wrong for two abnormally large and hungry bears to eat their fill :S

[Xyster]

because god always works through she bears in the OT There's more pillars of fire and lightning in the OT but you pick the one passage that finds 2 bears eating children. There's a period between his curse and his observation of bears eating children. He didn't praise God for it afterwards either, like he did every other time God showed his awesome salt pillar powers. You atheists and your crazy bible quotes

So I take it that non-denominational = Cherry picker
Cherry picker: Ill ignore the bad stuff or stuff I dont agree with and act like it dont matter even though the Bible it self states in 2Timothy 3:16 That all scripture is god breathed and usefull for teaching.....ect... Well it tought me that the Christain god is a DICK and IF he was real I would still not warship him in any fashion.

[tackattack]

because god always works through she bears in the OT There's more pillars of fire and lightning in the OT but you pick the one passage that finds 2 bears eating children. There's a period between his curse and his observation of bears eating children. He didn't praise God for it afterwards either, like he did every other time God showed his awesome salt pillar powers. You atheists and your crazy bible quotes

So I take it that non-denominational = Cherry picker
Cherry picker: Ill ignore the bad stuff or stuff I dont agree with and act like it dont matter even though the Bible it self states in 2Timothy 3:16 That all scripture is god breathed and usefull for teaching.....ect... Well it tought me that the Christain god is a DICK and IF he was real I would still not warship him in any fashion.

Yes breathed (read as breathed life into or inspired) by God. It teaches good lessons, like don't go acting all loud and obnoxious around 2 she bears. There was no attributing it to God. You're inferring beacuse he cursed them in God's name (not very Christian from a NT viewpoint) God came and did something about it.

As far as cherry picking... you're citing the verse, I'm just helping you to better understand it. I try not to cite scripture unless absolutely relevant and usually prefer to use whole chapters because context is the most important. Let's get aconcensus, anyone who's spoke with me at length.. do I cherry pick verses?

[Xyster]

LOL if it was just coincidence that the bears came out... It wouldent of been mentioned... bears dont travel in packs either....... so plz take your mental gymnastics elsewere.

[Zen Badger]

Yes breathed (read as breathed life into or inspired) by God. It teaches good lessons, like don't go acting all loud and obnoxious around 2 she bears. There was no attributing it to God. You're inferring beacuse he cursed them in God's name (not very Christian from a NT viewpoint) God came and did something about it.

As far as cherry picking... you're citing the verse, I'm just helping you to better understand it. I try not to cite scripture unless absolutely relevant and usually prefer to use whole chapters because context is the most important. Let's get aconcensus, anyone who's spoke with me at length.. do I cherry pick verses?

So where does the bible castigate him for cursing the children then?

[tackattack]

I haven't heard catigate since I was 13... good word usage, anyways. It doesn't nor does Jesus correct people on slavery being wrong. Were you expecting it to have every moral scenario, in Q&A format answered, for you to live your life by? How can we evlove and learn if given absolute knowledge? That wouldn't be growth that would be given knowledge, he tried giving us everything once, we chose our own way, he's content to let us do it our way, and grow on our own, we'll eventually end up on the same page hopefully. Just like a father and his kid.

[Xyster]

Wow more mental acrobatics to justify the lack of morality in the bible.... One of the reasons I like 2kings 2 23-25 is that they are stand alone passages. As far as I have seen they are not mentioned or refered to anywhere else in the bible. For example Tom is driving down the street and a homeless guy flips him off. So Tom gets out of his car beats him to a pulp and drives off with out further thought of the incedent. Now tom may have never seen this guy before and may never see him again, but what it dose do is speek volumes on Toms true nature. The context would not change in the slightest if directly afterwards Tom went to a strip club or to a church at wich he was the preacher.