The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About

[Mystical]

A lot of atheists here don't understand what kind of "proof" the religious get from god, and I've noticed that all the theists around here is say that they get the proof and that's it. Their reasoning being, the proof is dumb even to them. And yet they add it to their repertoire of a mountain of shit they think confirms that they aren't alone.

Here's an example that I know for a fact every Christian I've ever encountered as a Christian and asked about, believes in. Just google "the number 11 and god", and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Post your own, if you think about any.

Number Quickening

From 101 Ways God Speaks (And How to Hear Him)

“Therefore, be on the alert— for you do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether in the evening, at midnight, at cockcrowing, or in the morning— lest he come suddenly and find you asleep. “And what I say to you I say to all, ‘Be on the alert!’” (Mark 13:35-37 NASB)

The Lord often mentions timing when He speaks of seasons, years, months, days, hours, minutes and even seconds. When the Lord quickens numbers, sometimes they represent a period of time. Once I saw an abacus, my fingers dividing four equal rows of seven buttons each. I understood that to be exactly four weeks to the very day. The detail was precise and I marked it in my journal calendar.
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I have a pastor friend who had a most interesting experience with numbers. It all started the year before when he prayed, “Lord, please come and pour out Your Spirit upon us. Do anything You want, I just want to know that it is You and not some deception of the enemy.” About the same time he noticed every time he looked at a digital clock the time would consistently be 11:11 (AM and PM). This continued for several weeks.

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Then one morning when he was rushing to get ready for an appointment, he looked at the clock - 11:11. He said, “Lord?” Immediately he had a sense it was a scripture, but determined not to look, lest he select the one that suited him. At the end of the day, as he rolled into bed he glanced at the clock to see what time it was. You guessed it — 11:11. The next morning, again 11:11. “Lord, which scripture?” Finally He heard the Lord say, “Luke!” This was the verse: “If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish?” (Luke 11:11) At last he understood.

The Lord was answering his prayer by saying He had given him a written guarantee that if he asked God for something he would not get a counterfeit. That night as he went to bed he again glanced at the clock - 11:11 PM. The next day he shared this with his leaders and after the meeting an elder’s wife walked into her bedroom and glanced at their clock. It was 11:11.

That Saturday he prepared a message that would end with the 11:11 message and when he went to bed that night he looked at the clock — again it said 11:11. Smiling, he went to sleep. Sunday, he preached the message and glanced one time at the back wall of the church. It was 11:13 which was significant to him because the Lord had said He wanted to pour out His Holy Spirit that morning. Luke 11:13 says, “If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!” That night when he went to bed the clock said 11:13! From this, he was absolutely convinced they had received the move of the Lord which was the outpouring of His Holy Spirit!

The story doesn’t end there. After I had heard about the 11:11 message, we had a fun confirmation to the above story. My son said, “Hey look!!! Our clock says 11:11!!!” I started laughing, and said, “I gotta write this down!” My son, knowing nothing about 11:11 asked me, “Why? Is that another parable?” (I am always noticing allegorical parables, and he knows that.) I said, “Yes.” He wasn’t satisfied with that answer and was curious. So I told him the long story about 11:11’s. When I finished he couldn’t run fast enough to look up Luke 11:11.

Shortly after that, he and I started noticing 7:11’s. It became so frequent we were both wondering what it meant, just like Pastor. We saw 7:11 in our bedrooms, on the TV, on the microwave, on his wrist, in the car, on the computer. 7:11’s were popping up everywhere. My son was reading the Bible through for the first time, and the first day he read the New Testament his eye immediately jumped to 7:11. He could hardly believe his eyes! “If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!” (Matthew 7:11)

After that, the Lord started using 11:11 and 7:11 to confirm things He was sharing. One in particular was that He was promising the body of Christ an entire season of 11:11’s! YES LORD! Then one night I had a dream that many people’s journals were sprinkled with 11:11 on lots of pages. When I woke up from the dream I heard the Lord say, “11:11.” Immediately following, I glanced at my clock — it said 11:11.

Then an amazing thing happened. One night in the car My son started counting 10, 9, 8, etc. I looked at the digital clock and it said 7:10. I realized what he was doing, so I started at 19, 18, 17. etc. After doing my countdown very methodically and in perfect rhythm, when I got to 4, I slowed and said, “fooouuurrr, thhhhrrreee...” and then it turned to 7:11. If I had not stalled out the 4 and 3 it would have been absolutely perfect on the dot! From that day on, I understood that we were in a season of “countdown” towards 11:11-7:11. And of course, the Lord confirmed that understanding with more you-know-whats.

Right before I added this 11:11 story to this section, I was going through my journal to find more stories or examples that I could add to the book. When I searched, I was happy to find 26 more tidbits. As I sat in my car at a stop light, I thanked the Lord for giving me so many and then I was reminded that part of my promise was that I was going to be a food gatherer for the body of Christ. I realized that was what I was doing, collecting stories for hungry people. I was feeling kind of silly, and somewhat jokingly I said, “OK Lord, I’m supposed to gather food, so let’s gather some!” As soon as I said “some,” I glanced up through the windshield. There looming directly above me was a 7-11 grocery market sign. (He had the last Word on that one!)

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Between digital clocks, car odometers, wrist watches, video camera timers, VCR’s, computers, microwaves, score boards, exercise bike timers, signs and broken calculators — for all the trouble the Lord has gone through, all I can say is THIS SEASON IS REALLY GOING TO BE GOOD!

Other than the Lord quickening clocks and numbers to cross reference with scriptures, there is another way the Lord quickens numbers to me. Often when I see a vision or hear Him, I will glance at the clock and note the time. This is an instinctive thing prompted by the Holy Spirit though a glance of my eyes. The clock time is quickened to me and so I record it with the vision or Word. Later I look up the clock time in the Greek and Hebrew numbers from the Strong’s Concordance. This is often a wonderful confirming addition to His Word.

he following happens to be a literal example: I saw a vision of 19:42 on the face of a digital clock. The 42 seconds were flashing. Then I heard the Lord say, “Cloud. I AM with you. Follow Me.” The Strongs number 1942 in the Hebrew meant ‘calamity’ and in the Greek, it meant a ‘covering or veil’. I understood the Lord was telling me He would cover me or protect me from calamity by the cloud of His Presence. Since I also saw the number 42 flashing, I looked it up separately. In the Hebrew it meant ‘my father is delight’ and in the Greek it meant ‘holiness’. The Lord was affirming that He is holy and my delight, and He had indeed spoken this Word of promised protection.

Now, I'm going to be honest and concede that I too thought god spoke to me in numbers. I thought I was getting confirmation or condemnation based on what numbers I was or wasn't seeing.
Since I stopped believing in god altogether, I'm happy to report, I still see 11:11 regularly and often for weeks at a time and then it just stops for long periods of time, then it shows up again-- Sometimes during poignant times in my atheist life

[rexbeccarox]

For years, actually, I think, since I got a phone that told me the actual, real time, I've looked at the clock at 11:11 at least once a day. I think my internal clock has just programmed me that way. Also, OCD.

[Jacob(smooth)]

Here's an example that I know for a fact every Christian I've ever encountered as a Christian and asked about, believes in.

Ahem

[Esquilax]

Here's an example that I know for a fact every Christian I've ever encountered as a Christian and asked about, believes in.

Ahem

She hasn't been a christian since she joined this forum, and hence she never encountered you as a christian.

[Doubting Thomas]

Or... how many times has he looked at the clock and NOT thought it significant because he wasn't looking at it right at 11:11? A clock is designed to look at to get the time, which I'm assuming most people including this pastor do all day long. It's just that the time 11:11 tends to stick out in people's minds, and not, say, 3:41. So every time he sees 11:11 he makes a mental note of it, and possibly his mind has trained him to look at the clock about that time every day because he's making such a big deal out of 11:11.

I don't smoke marijuana, but I often notice when the clock says 4:20, and I kind of make a little joke to myself about it. "Duuude, 4:20! Cool." Do I make a mental note whenever I read the clock at other times? Not particularly. Not even at 12:34.

[Jacob(smooth)]

Don't know if it counts but we have a code of betting in poker... 40 = france 230 = chinese dentist etc... Does that count?

[Mystical]

Don't know if it counts but we have a code of betting in poker... 40 = france 230 = chinese dentist etc... Does that count?

-No.

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Incidentally, not only have my "number quickening abilities" been unchanged, but I also run across instances that I would've otherwise attributed to god. Stuff just happens.
During my deconversion I also since flipped god off and the devil and dared them to send me their worst demons ever. To literally make me a ceiling crawling head twisting possessed crazy person. Someone came on this forum stating that they thought god killed their dog. So I also dared them to kill my dog.

Dogs fine, I'm fine. All of my childhood nightmares were for naught.

[Cinjin]

I don't get it.
I see numbers all the time. Hell, once I even got two invoices on the same day from different vendors that said I owed $666.00. Should I now believe in the antichrist and that it's a sign the end is coming?

Fact: Sheep are stupid. I choose not to be. Best to ignore retarded ideas from christards.

[KichigaiNeko]

Oh I just love it when I look at the clock (digital) and it reads
11:11 11:12 11:13

and then
12:11 12:12 12:13

Yeah you get the drift. The fun ones ARE

11:11, 12:12, 22:22, 23:23, 14:14, 13:13 Yeah I run on Twenty four hour time no PM on our clocks.

Ya know what is worst?
Going to bed at 21:21 and waking up again at 23:23 and 01:50 (hour of my birth)

[Doubting Thomas]

When I was in the military we had these 24-hour clocks hanging from the ceiling. They were 6 digit clocks so they counted the seconds, too. When the clock read 22:22:22 we'd all yell "twos!" Since it was only about 40 minutes until the end of our shift, it was a way to have some lighthearted fun. On the day shift, there was "Count!" at 12:34:56 but it wasn't quite as popular, probably because it happened only about halfway through the shift.