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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 11:10 am
(December 17, 2013 at 2:56 am)feeling Wrote: Btw for the record after seeing that video I am fucking disappointed in Michio Kaku.
I can forgive some stupid man for saying that but not michio.
He's been mystic for quite some time. He's an embarrassment.
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 11:25 am
(December 17, 2013 at 2:56 am)feeling Wrote: Btw for the record after seeing that video I am fucking disappointed in Michio Kaku.
I can forgive some stupid man for saying that but not michio.
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 11:35 am
(December 17, 2013 at 11:25 am)houseofcantor Wrote: (December 17, 2013 at 2:56 am)feeling Wrote: Btw for the record after seeing that video I am fucking disappointed in Michio Kaku.
I can forgive some stupid man for saying that but not michio.
n00b.
Well I just searched back through the last 5 pages of this cancerous thread but could not find a Michio Kaku video. Can anyone point me there or tell me what he says that is mystical?
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 11:42 am
(This post was last modified: December 17, 2013 at 11:43 am by pocaracas.)
(December 17, 2013 at 11:35 am)whateverist Wrote: (December 17, 2013 at 11:25 am)houseofcantor Wrote: n00b.
Well I just searched back through the last 5 pages of this cancerous thread but could not find a Michio Kaku video. Can anyone point me there or tell me what he says that is mystical?
First post, the OP.... there's a video, centered and all... It's a short half a minute video... The very first video in there
EDIT to say it's the first video!
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm
(This post was last modified: December 17, 2013 at 3:35 pm by Mega Saga.)
Am sure you can get any man made book and try to find meaning in it threw numbers. This is not proof of creation. Also you just included that nature has mathematical patterns which doesn't prove creation.
The concept of creation is self-contradictory.
The concept of creation is impossible. From “nothingness”, only “nothing” can emerge. Given that creation, as a reality, is self-contradictory, GOD’s existence is impossible.
God Is Impossible By definition, creation requires that nothing initially exist, yet to affirm that from nothingness anything whatsoever could materialize, would be self-contradictory. After all, if someone really wanted to create something, just remember what there would be to work with… nothing! And nothing is nothing, no matter what kind kick-ass illusionist might want to fashion from its confines. Trickier still is the requirement that for real creation to take place, not even the creator could be there; a most unfavorable condition to be for someone who wants to get any real work done.
Indeed the notion of creation is humanity’s most embarrassing oxymoron. Surprisingly, humans have believed in it almost since the beginning of modern civilization. Interestingly, the possibility of creation can not be proven no matter what lengthy arguments are brought to bear. Its impossibility, on the other hand, is easily demonstrated in only seconds. We do say that people “create” things, but, indeed, no one creates anything. Its confusion with “creation” and “transformation.” Transformation takes place when already existing elements are combined to generate new structures. Transformations produced by humans are not proof of something coming into existence; but, rather, proof that man has a unique ability to transform elements, which already exist, into entirely new forms. Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Even for the supporters of the “Big Bang” theory like myself:
How sure are we that this big bang was the first? From where did that initial source of energy materialize anyway, from nowhere? Is it even remotely possible that absolutely nothing could have exploded into all of this? How does something blow-up that isn’t there?
Man is accustomed to witnessing the birth of a child or the destruction of an inanimate object and surmising he has witnessed the emergence or annihilation of existence itself. He has not. He has only witnessed a fleeting moment of transformation. That which we interpret as the beginning or the end of physical form is, indeed, but the almost magical-like illusion created by snap-shot observations of an eternally evolving universe.
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 7:57 pm
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(December 17, 2013 at 11:42 am)pocaracas Wrote: (December 17, 2013 at 11:35 am)whateverist Wrote: Well I just searched back through the last 5 pages of this cancerous thread but could not find a Michio Kaku video. Can anyone point me there or tell me what he says that is mystical?
First post, the OP.... there's a video, centered and all... It's a short half a minute video... The very first video in there
EDIT to say it's the first video!
Thank you. Just a quick word to acknowledge a seeming similarity. Meh. Too soon to call for the nets.
(December 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Mega Saga Wrote: Am sure you can get any man made book and try to find meaning in it threw numbers. This is not proof of creation.
Right. More like a desperate plea for help.
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm
(December 17, 2013 at 7:57 pm)whateverist Wrote: Right. More like a desperate plea for help.
If only you could see what we mods do, you'd understand just how right that is.
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 9:48 pm
It was very apparent that he really, really wanted this thread to go away.
Personally, I think the best thing we can do for our departed member is to keep it alive.
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 9:59 pm
(December 17, 2013 at 9:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It was very apparent that he really, really wanted this thread to go away.
Personally, I think the best thing we can do for our departed member is to keep it alive.
Did he actually claim this as intellectual property?
It's not even intellectual!
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RE: Proof of creation no atheist can debunk (100% bulletproof)
December 17, 2013 at 10:08 pm
That's how deluded he was.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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