Abiogenesis is impossible

[JesusHChrist]

it's said believe in God/religion from the evolutionary theory evolved to served a useful function in promoting survival by bringing order to communities and existential motivation.

Who says?

It says.

Cousin It perhaps.

[Ryantology]

you do not have a serious scientific theory explaining the powers and properties of the human mind. yea i know, you're working on it. waiting...

You do not have a serious theory of any kind explaining the powers and properties of the human mind, so that's okay.

[snowtracks]

athests can't have it both ways: it's said believe in God/religion from the evolutionary theory evolved to served a useful function in promoting survival by bringing order to communities and existential motivation. currently some 90% are still suffering from that evolutionary delusion while others, some 10%, have evolved further, or have they? if the mind has been reduced to a mere molecular proteins and chemicals lthat whack their way through neural circuitry and determines truth, there wouldn't be a valid objective way to determine what group is correct at this point in time. maybe you guys are just rogue (no fault of your own, nothing you need to feel bad about) and need to get back to your grassroot level.

Yes there fucking would be a way, you goddamn moron (and I feel safe in saying that now that you're resorted to the beginnings of presuppositionalism): it's called reality. You know, the objective reality that exists, and either does or does not feature a god? That reality; the thing is, you haven't provided a single shred of proof for god, nor a mechanism by which one does the things you claim it does, nor even a test one could perform to verify its existence. We have no rational justification for believing in one, and you resorting back to a more primitive time where one was used to fill the gaping holes of ignorance in our knowledge is incredibly telling.

my, it looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morn.
you aren't following the logic; after all, it's your logic. if God doesn't exist, the God concept originated from evolution processes (couldn't come from theist since they are also the product); therefore unequivocally, evolutionary theory started it. now for some that evolution has advanced to a new plateau while others stay with the old evolution (the religious). if the new evolutionist are correct, evolution hasn't served 90% with the truth. so what would make the enlightened 10% think that same evolutionary processes now has got it right?

[Chas]

Yes there fucking would be a way, you goddamn moron (and I feel safe in saying that now that you're resorted to the beginnings of presuppositionalism): it's called reality. You know, the objective reality that exists, and either does or does not feature a god? That reality; the thing is, you haven't provided a single shred of proof for god, nor a mechanism by which one does the things you claim it does, nor even a test one could perform to verify its existence. We have no rational justification for believing in one, and you resorting back to a more primitive time where one was used to fill the gaping holes of ignorance in our knowledge is incredibly telling.

my, it looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morn.
you aren't following the logic; after all, it's your logic. if God doesn't exist, the God concept originated from evolution processes (couldn't come from theist since they are also the product); therefore unequivocally, evolutionary theory started it. now for some that evolution has advanced to a new plateau while others stay with the old evolution (the religious). if the new evolutionist are correct, evolution hasn't served 90% with the truth. so what would make the enlightened 10% think that same evolutionary processes now has got it right?

Your paragraph is nonsense. You do not have even a tiny comprehension of evolution. And what little you have is incorrect.

[Esquilax]

my, it looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morn.
you aren't following the logic; after all, it's your logic. if God doesn't exist, the God concept originated from evolution processes (couldn't come from theist since they are also the product); therefore unequivocally, evolutionary theory started it. now for some that evolution has advanced to a new plateau while others stay with the old evolution (the religious). if the new evolutionist are correct, evolution hasn't served 90% with the truth. so what would make the enlightened 10% think that same evolutionary processes now has got it right?

Because you're a moron who doesn't understand evolution. That's why.

Evolution, for one, doesn't have anything to do with truth, at all; truth is merely something we can determine due to our sophisticated brains, which developed to fill an ecological niche. So, your basic premise is wrong to begin with, but also, I'd add that the "evolution of religion," so to speak, doesn't necessarily have to be a single evolutionary step, or even a direct product of one; it's my view that religion is an unintended side effect of naturally selected properties that serve different purposes. It wasn't like there was a single mutation and then bam, christianity.

That's the thing: our brains are just patchwork, they don't work perfectly well. That's why we do well to notice and correct for the natural fallacies that we might fall for, such as the argument from ignorance that you practically embody. How about actually learning some of this stuff before you see fit to comment on it?

[Ryantology]

my, it looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morn.
you aren't following the logic; after all, it's your logic. if God doesn't exist, the God concept originated from evolution processes (couldn't come from theist since they are also the product); therefore unequivocally, evolutionary theory started it. now for some that evolution has advanced to a new plateau while others stay with the old evolution (the religious). if the new evolutionist are correct, evolution hasn't served 90% with the truth. so what would make the enlightened 10% think that same evolutionary processes now has got it right?

There's nothing magical or mystical about belief in a god as compared to any other delusional fantasy which a person convinces themselves is true. Even god concepts are a dime a dozen. The ones that have lasted a long time were the beneficiaries of strong memetic effect and a lot of fortunate circumstances (if the ruler of what then was the world's most powerful empire hadn't decided that the cross made a great weapon, would anybody even still practice that faith today?).

The two most powerful world religions spread largely at the point of swords and bayonets, as did their shared ancestor, because a message of God's love and salvation apparently can't sell itself any other way. Congratulations, you are a contributor to the world's most murderous meme.

[KichigaiNeko]

I would ask snowtracks, what of Neo-Paganism? Just as valid and rooted more into reality ( the eight fold year) than anything out of the Levant.

[snowtracks]

it's said believe in God/religion from the evolutionary theory evolved to served a useful function in promoting survival by bringing order to communities and existential motivation.

Who says?

you are asking me to explain your theory which is that creationists are a product of evolution and they are promoting a God theory. where else would it come from?

[Cyberman]

No, he's asking you who says what you claimed that "it's said". Please don't misrepresent someone else's words like that.

[Angrboda]

No, he's asking you who says what you claimed that "it's said". Please don't misrepresent someone else's words like that.

To be charitable, there is some ambiguity involved, as the phrase could be interpreted literally, as in, "who has said that," or idiomatically, as in, "oh yeah, prove it."