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Global Warming: Fact or Fiction?
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(January 3, 2014 at 5:17 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Are you going to start showing evidence or are you going to ignore that and keep claiming things? Because you have claimed wrong things in the past and you still haven't acknowledged that. I've asked what source did you use to determine that volcanoes emit CFC, where is it? Link it.Sorry, I may be wrong about that point. It's not my agenda. My point is to do with exactly what climate science tells us, and how much is left for discussion. Quote:If this is all you're going to do I'm done with this thread. It's like conspiracy theorists, keep claiming evidence is fake while having none of their own.Not at all. IQ2 Debate 2007 (there's really been no advancement in climate science since then IMHO): And for comic relief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc ("Hide the decline" is quoted from the climategate emails).
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK "That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
yea, quote mining and linking me a debate.
Look this entire thread you've been extremely critical of all the data you do not agree with yet you quite casually stated things as if they were facts and they turned out to be wrong and you're not at all bothered. This is the double standard I'm talking about. The only criteria for data you have is whether or not you agree with it. I'm done with this. RE: Global Warming: Fact or Fiction?
January 3, 2014 at 7:37 am
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2014 at 7:42 am by Aractus.)
Then let me clarify. The vast majority of climate scientists agree that CO2 and the other anthropocentric gasses do contribute to climate change.
The Fourth IPCC report (2007) however made statements in the Summary for Policymakers that not every climate scientist agrees with, and did not go through the proper peer-review process that the rest of the paper did. This meant that only a handful of those high up like Mann got to decide ultimately what it said. The statements made within the summary were presented (politically) as scientific consensus when they were not. On the whole however the report is good, and contains information across a wide range of issues within the science. The Summary should have had equal contribution from scientists representing all sections of the IPCC report, it did not. It only represents "Working Group I" and from the reports I read I the past, only some of those involved in WGI got to participate in the section. Group II and Group III had no involvement whatsoever in it.
Many of the statements made were based off the assumption that the planet would warm by 4-8 degrees Celsius or more over the next 100 years, something that is not consensus and has since been revised down.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK "That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
This is on the 3rd page of this thread. Right after Lemon first brought up climategate and I asked for a quote and he till now has not come up with one. But hey, the quote mining you did I addressed on the 3rd page. I'll highlight it for you.
(December 30, 2013 at 1:26 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I changed my mind. I will engage in a "debate" or whatever. It is an important topic after all. What you say right now has 0 credibility. You basically get your information from media sources and hearsay, you've never seen primary data or their methodology and yet you based your entire argument on how corrupted and biased data is. When media sources are good enough data when they support your point. This is why this discussion is an utter waste of time.
A bit of both. Kind of like the reasons for invading Iraq.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
RE: Global Warming: Fact or Fiction?
January 3, 2014 at 9:08 pm
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2014 at 9:09 pm by Aractus.)
@pineapplebunny - FYI I read the climate gate emails for myself to form my own opinion. They're quite easy to search through (but there are a lot of them so it can take time). I don't think I have them anymore though. I haven't made any comments on what they said other than it proved a culture within climate scientists against sceptical thinking climate scientists. For instance, they talk about how they want to say that they don't consider certain papers to be peer-review (even though they are) in order to discredit research done by sceptics and try and strong arm those papers not to accept peer-review material from climate sceptics. As I said I read it for myself first-hand and if I still had the emails I'd quote it for you (if I find them again I can do it, however I think I deleted them all).
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK "That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke (January 3, 2014 at 9:29 pm)Belac Enrobso Wrote:(January 3, 2014 at 9:03 pm)Polaris Wrote: A bit of both. Kind of like the reasons for invading Iraq. Shut up troll. Some of us think in analogies, so fuck off.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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