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Dear God, Eve what have you done?
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 1:18 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 1:14 am)Drich Wrote: Monkey man is a metaphor for evolved man this includes women. "The sons of Adam marry the daughters of man" or monkey man.

How did the sons of Adam mate with evolved man and not produce children with fatal genetic effects, or how were they able to produce offspring at all?

As I pointed out in my original thread Adam and Eve were created from the beginning to reflect the evolutionary progress of man at the time of the fall/expulsion from the garden.
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#22
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 1:38 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 1:18 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote: How did the sons of Adam mate with evolved man and not produce children with fatal genetic effects, or how were they able to produce offspring at all?

As I pointed out in my original thread Adam and Eve were created from the beginning to reflect the evolutionary progress of man at the time of the fall/expulsion from the garden.

Is there any evidence for this? I would love to see it.
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#23
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 1:23 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Drich, I'd like to know (assuming you take the Genesis story as the literal beginning of mankind), what you think about this timeline from the Smithsonian Institute?

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...nteractive

What don't you get specifically? God created the garden and everything in it on the third day to reflect the evolutionary process of this world and man at the time of the fall. (As per genesis2) Meaning genetically Adam and everything in the garden was a true representation of life about 5 or 6 thousand years ago on the third day of creation.

To directly answer your question, This means after the sixth day of creation everything could have happened just as the 'smart' people at si.edu thinks it happened or not. In the end Who cares because no matter what the current generation thinks happened in the evolutionary process, it still fits well with in the confines of creation.
Cool Shades

(January 4, 2014 at 1:37 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote: Drich I am waiting for a reply to my questions good sir.

How did the sons of Adam produce offspring with evolved man without any offspring having fatal genetic effects. How were they able to produce offspring at all?

Wait your turn sport.

(January 4, 2014 at 1:40 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 1:38 am)Drich Wrote: As I pointed out in my original thread Adam and Eve were created from the beginning to reflect the evolutionary progress of man at the time of the fall/expulsion from the garden.

Is there any evidence for this? I would love to see it.

What does evidence of two individual people living in a garden paradise for billions of years look like after 6000 or so years/Pre-history?

PanicPanic
(January 4, 2014 at 12:48 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote: I'm waiting for it, I and childofreason here will have a hella can of logical woop-ass to unleash on them.

Panic
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#24
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 1:31 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 1:15 am)Brakeman Wrote: So how did the Magic WooHoo god-man change Eve physically to make her reproductive? How did the magic woohoo man make the souls stick to some bags of cellular flesh but not others?

How do you know she was not made that way?

Sez so in your "Big-Book-O-Crazy".

And don't act like you're not familiar with the verses and need them pointed out to you.
Find the cure for Fundementia!
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#25
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 1:51 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 1:23 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Drich, I'd like to know (assuming you take the Genesis story as the literal beginning of mankind), what you think about this timeline from the Smithsonian Institute?

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...nteractive

What don't you get specifically? God created the garden and everything in it on the third day to reflect the evolutionary process of this world and man at the time of the fall. (As per genesis2) Meaning genetically Adam and everything in the garden was a true representation of life about 5 or 6 thousand years ago on the third day of creation.

Did I say I don't get something? Specifically I was wanting to know if you somehow rectified reality with the Bible or denied the evidence altogether. Being it the former, I'd like to kno specific details about what you believe Neanderthals were, for instance, and where they lie on your 'timeline'. Also how on earth you think two people populated a world, which was then completely flooded (without evidence for such a. event) save for a family, then repopulated to our current state in a 5-6k yr time period? I mean have you seen the Archaeological history of human beings?
Drich Wrote:To directly answer your question, This means after the sixth day of creation everything could have happened just as the 'smart' people at si.edu thinks it happened or not. In the end Who cares because no matter what the current generation thinks happened in the evolutionary process, it still fits well with in the confines of creation.
Cool Shades

Oh wreally? Thinking

Care to demonstrate?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#26
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 2:06 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 1:31 am)Drich Wrote: How do you know she was not made that way?

Sez so in your "Big-Book-O-Crazy".

And don't act like you're not familiar with the verses and need them pointed out to you.
seriously i have no idea what your talking about. please point them out

(January 4, 2014 at 2:25 pm)Bunny Wrote: Did I say I don't get something?
the content and phrasing of your questions demonstrate that you do not understand what is being discussed. You believe creation and evolution can not co-exist. My arguement says that it can/did.

Quote:Specifically I was wanting to know if you somehow rectified reality with the Bible or denied the evidence altogether.
rectified. In that God created the garden on day three and placed Adam/Man made in the image of God in the garden to care for it. everything that happens in the garden was cordened off and completely seperate from the 'evolutionary process' that happened outside the garden.

Quote:Being it the former, I'd like to kno specific details about what you believe Neanderthals were, for instance, and where they lie on your 'timeline'.
Go back and carfully read the Creation/evolution OP. it explains all of this.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html


Quote:Also how on earth you think two people populated a world,
Again read the OP in the link above.

Quote:which was then completely flooded (without evidence for such a. event)
The evidence is all around we just don't understand what we are looking at. For we never had an example of a flood on that scale happen in that way. Every instance of flood we have is produced from an existing or a collective body of water breaking it's confines and flooding a nother area taking debris with it. Noah's flood did not happen that way. The way it happened was the earth puke up water as well as rain came down. No sudden in rush means no trail of debris from other places.

Example: take a 5 gallon bucket fill 1/2 with water and and 1/2 with clay. mix it then dump it out. the mud spreads every where. This is an example of liquid moving from place to another carring debris it picked up along the way. the 'evidence' we know to look for in a flood is completely dependant on the movement of water from a source to another area. (Like the tsunamis)

Now take the same bucket fill it 1/2 with ice and the the same type of clay on top. as the ice melts the clay will fill from the bottom up and saturate the clay. the clay does not move because the saturation happens in an even controlled way. This is what Genesis describes. Now given enouh time the water will evaporate leaving hard pack clay which if given enough time will turn into stone.

The evidence is there, we (some of us) just do not know what they are looking at.

Quote:save for a family, then repopulated to our current state in a 5-6k yr time period? I mean have you seen the Archaeological history of human beings?
The Pre-flood archaeological history of humanity would still exist. why is it so hard to understand that post flood man would not utilize these structures? Oh, that's right because you assume that the flood would have leveled these cities.

Quote:Oh wreally? Thinking

Care to demonstrate?
follow the above link
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#27
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 1:51 am)Drich Wrote: What does evidence of two individual people living in a garden paradise for billions of years look like after 6000 or so years/Pre-history?

I have no earthly idea Drich, do you have evidence for this claim or not?
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#28
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 3, 2014 at 11:57 pm)Belac Enrobso Wrote: Any opinions on Eve in genesis of the bible?

She did take the first bite of the apple, which led to the eternal cursing of mankind.

She also gave birth to three sons, just sons.

Any opinions, comments, concerns?

I'd like to hear them!

They are fictional.
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#29
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
(January 4, 2014 at 1:38 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 1:18 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote: How did the sons of Adam mate with evolved man and not produce children with fatal genetic effects, or how were they able to produce offspring at all?

As I pointed out in my original thread Adam and Eve were created from the beginning to reflect the evolutionary progress of man at the time of the fall/expulsion from the garden.

No this is against the teachings of the church, it is drich exaptation Smile

Drich's Sabellianism never get old...AND the FATHER died for you. Lol.
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#30
RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
Only idiots like Drippy insist that adam and eve are real.
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