reasons to believe, there is no God

[tavarish]

Saying the universe is evidence of God doesn't give us any more information about the universe or God. I can say "God's in that rock" and not give any attributes to the rock. It's not a valid statement because it's a placeholder for whatever made-up conclusion you want to make about that particular object.

the cosmological argument does not elucidate WHICH GOD might be the designer of the universe, but that a designer, a intelligent creator, is the best and most rational answer to the question of the cause of our cosmos.

You heard it here first. God exists, we just don't know which one.

Sa-weeeet!

[Watson]

tavarish, your Invisible Pink Unicorn argument is not only regurgitated from the same tired old idea used in an atheistic viewpoint over and over again, it is also faulty because of the nature of your so-called 'Invisible Pink Unicorn.' The suggestion that thisUnicorn exists supposes that there must be a physical or biological entity known as the Invisible Pink Unicorn, and that it could, in theory, be found or constructed or proven.

She is transcendent and eternal. There goes your argument. You can't see her either. Blessed be her hooves.

I love you, tavarish. Your ignorance knows no bounds. If she's transcendant and eternal, she doesn't have hooves(although she could if she wanted to!) Also, nice way to completely contradict yourself by saying you can't see her. If she's transcendant and eternal, you look around and...wow there she is!

This pales in comparison to the idea of what God is supposed to be, which is a being free of tethers such as biological or physical existance and exists merely on a plain of it's own. The nature of God is different from the nature of your IPU because He is an entity which exists everywhere simultaneously, exists in a way that is non-physical, and exists beyond the scope of anything less than spiritual perception.

You assumed the nature of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, and you were wrong. She is everywhere and is transcendent, and the creator of the universe. Those who don't believe in her can't understand her. You need to believe her to feel her. Blessed be her hooves.

This is true. You can't understand love without feeling love. God is love, so...there you go. But if the IPU is everywhere and transcendant, then she...isn't a Unicorn. At all.

The IPU as you present it, however, presuppoes that the entity of God could perhaps be touched or seen or perceived in a lesser state than that of God. If you really want to talk about a being like that, let's start a topic about Angels and you can bring up your personal 'Angel', the IPU, there.

Wrong again. She is not an angel. She is an all encompassing, all knowing, all loving pink unicorn that just happens to be invisible and transcendent. Blessed be her hooves.

"Invisible and transcendant." That's so contradictory I don't even know where to begin. Blasted foolishness.

[tavarish]

I love you, tavarish. Your ignorance knows no bounds. If she's transcendant and eternal, she doesn't have hooves(although she could if she wanted to!) Also, nice way to completely contradict yourself by saying you can't see her. If she's transcendant and eternal, you look around and...wow there she is!

You can feel her presence, it's very real, but only if you believe. She has hooves, the same way that God has hands (from the saying "at the hand of God"). You can't see her physically, but she is self-evident when you believe in her. She's more than existing in reality. She IS reality. She is all things and the creator of our universe. If you believed in her, you would know her nature.

This is true. You can't understand love without feeling love. God is love, so...there you go. But if the IPU is everywhere and transcendant, then she...isn't a Unicorn. At all.

The feeble human brain can only attribute the term "unicorn" to a physical form, which is much like the "God made man in his own image" claim. Unicorn encompasses all that we cannot comprehend, in an elegant, transcendent form. God is not love, because God is fictional. The Invisible Pink Unicorn is love. Only through strong belief can we begin to understand her holy actions and her influence on her awesome creation. She is self evident, if you would just open your mind to that avenue of belief.

"Invisible and transcendant." That's so contradictory I don't even know where to begin. Blasted foolishness.

She doesn't abide by the laws of nature because she is supernatural. She created the laws of nature. She IS law. She can be everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Have you tried believing in her? Her main goal is for you to understand her intentions in the universe and worship her holy hooves. Seeing as its so blatantly easy to understand, I'm surprised you can't. BBHH.

[Watson]

Hey, tavarish, you're finally getting it! Good job! Witha few minor corrections, that's almost the exact same concept as God. You're close, man, keep trying.

[Darwinian]

So, what are we saying here? God is a Unicorn :S

[Watson]

Well, tavarish seems to think so, and he has a totally new idea about what the word 'unicorn' even means in respect to God.

[tavarish]

Hey, tavarish, you're finally getting it! Good job! Witha few minor corrections, that's almost the exact same concept as God. You're close, man, keep trying.

Wrong. The Invisible Pink Unicorn did not make us in her image. She also has no stance on sin, but has strong reservations on eating spaghetti with applesauce. That is her only commandment. She did not have any sons, did not send them to die. You just have to believe to receive her holy grace. She's much more than some imaginary concept such as God. She IS imagination.

So, what are we saying here? God is a Unicorn :S

Not at all, that would be ridiculous.

Well, tavarish seems to think so, and he has a totally new idea about what the word 'unicorn' even means in respect to God.

Wrong again. How can you make such an assumption if you don't believe? God is imaginary. The Invisible Pink Unicorn is real and self-evident with belief. There's a difference. We both believe in reality. I just have a more real explanation than yours.

[Watson]

Well, aside from your stupid commandments about spaghetti or whatever, what you are labeling as 'The Invisible Pink Unicorn" is what I describe as God. You're close, tavrish, but don't go writing your own Bible just yet.

And 'made in God's image'...that's a whole 'nother discussion topic.

[tavarish]

Well, aside from your stupid commandments about spaghetti or whatever, what you are labeling as 'The Invisible Pink Unicorn" is what I describe as God. You're close, tavrish, but don't go writing your own Bible just yet.

And 'made in God's image'...that's a whole 'nother discussion topic.

So what separates my Unicorn from your God?

Come on, you almost got it.

[Watson]

Nothing but a word, tavarish, nothing. And that word is love. If you're going to go on and spout nonsense about your IPU's commandments, then we've got problems, ut that has nothing to do with what God or your 'IPU' is all about. That's what you're all about, I'm afriad.