Hall of wit and epicness.

[Jackalope]

Eugenics is not necessary as the singularity is near. Read this and you will understand. http://www.kurzweilai.net/singularity-q-a

Until then you should just keep eating your Cheetos and watching naked girls on your computer because your views of politics are insane.

I don't eat cheetos.

Well good then your pecker won't turn orange.

[Angrboda]

Whenever people say something is "self-explanatory," what they usually mean is "I have accepted this explanation." That's not the same thing, nor does simply labeling something as self-explanatory obligates others to accept it as such.

[Mystical]

A warning isn't a threat.

You can call it rain all you want, but that doesn't change the fact you're still pissing on me.

This struck me as witty.

[DeistPaladin]

Some of you just love to speculate on my motives. Project much. Interesting how the policy implications I discussed are summarily ignored in favor of accusing Christians of hate. Again, project much.

Hi Chad, I'm wondering if you could explain your thinking to me, then, because for personal reasons, I'm curious.

You see, the last relationship I had prior the one I'm in now was with a guy. In case you haven't seen my other posts on this personal topic, I'm bisexual. That means that I can appreciate the potential beauty of both sexes and, when I'm searching for a partner, gender is negotiable.

I can tell you from personal experience that the emotional side is all the same, from falling in love to the heartbreak of splitting up. Love is the same emotion whether it's felt for a man or a woman. All that is distinct are the physical mechanics and even this is more of a variation on a theme than something significantly different.

However, apparently to you love is "evil" when the body parts are similar. I'm wondering if you could help me understand why my previous relationship was "evil" and my current one with a woman is "good".

[sarcasm] Of course, you've clarified that I personally am not evil but simply my behavior was. Thank you, that really makes a big difference. I don't feel hated at all. [/sarcasm]

[Darkstar]

Thought I'd share from another thread:

ONTOLOGICAL LOGIC APPLIED IN REAL LIFE

***Walks into a bank***
"Hi, I'd like to withdraw one million dollars from my checking account."

"Sir, you don't even have an checking account at this bank."

"Well, is it possible I could have an account at this bank?"

"Um, sure, but I don't see..."

"And is it possible that a checking account could have 1 million dollars in it?"

"Well, theoretically, but..."

"And an account with one million dollars would have a million dollars in it, right?"

"Sure but..."

"And if I didn't have an account at this bank, it couldn't have 1 million dollars in it?"

"Exactly, and..."

"So we can imagine that I have a checking account with one million dollars at this bank, such a thing could exist and if it didn't exist, it wouldn't have 1 million dollars in it. So my account with 1 million dollars in it MUST exist."

"Wait! What?"

"So I'd like to withdraw my million dollars, please."

***Get thrown out of the bank***

[DeistPaladin]

Thank you. Nothing exposes the absurdity of apologetic logic or other woo than trying to apply it in real life. I drew some inspiration from this...

[Cinjin]

Using the No True Scotsman argument to defend the atrocities of christians is a pathetic fucking cop-out. If you profess to be a christian, attend a christian church, preach christianity to your children, and then carry out a horrific act in the name of christianity ... guess what .... You're a mother fucking CHRISTIAN!!

[pocaracas]

if your god would send me to hell for using the mind he gave me to evaluate the world he put me in, if being sincerely incorrect is something worthy of punishment to him, then he's got a hell of a lot of explaining to do once I stand before him.

I simply don't understand why it pleases you to characterize your god as being that petty and small minded, though.

A fine reply to the sword guy. kudos to you, sir!

[Mystical]

I just read two very fine posts. The first is this one, all of it.

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Freewill

Do we even have it?

and moral arguments

Euthyphro dilemma

Other arguments include the teleological argument which I find to be compelling as well, particularly if you realize that the universe is one great mathematical framework of precise balance. The cosmos itself and everything within it seems to wok together as a complete whole in bringing about the eventual fruition of life and intelligence so that's a strong point there.

No, not really. What about the 99.999% (probably a low estimate) of the universe that is immediately destructive to life makes you think that the universe works together as a complete whole for the purpose of life?

The message of the Bible particularly NT but also the OT if you look is essentially a God of the oppressed and poor which I believe to be on firm moral ground there, a lot of emphasis good works and charity and so forth.

The fact that it sounds nice to you does not make it more likely to be true.

Christianity seems to be the religion with the fewest man made religious laws and customs and so forth which to my mind makes it the most legit of the claimed revelations. Jesus to me seems like a perfectly good embodiment of God and the good I see as being within humanity as a whole regardless of class, nationality and race.

Except that whole slavery thing, huh?

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Ephesians 6:5-8
New International Version (NIV)
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

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Also I believe there is a subjective relational element regarding humanity and God that I experience and is possible for all humans to experience.

Would it be too much of a jump to assume you have no evidence for that?

A few other points include the reverence of the natural world as a creation of God rather than an evil illusion of the maya or whatever it is they tend to believe in the Eastern religions.

I'm not sure what you mean by "evil illusion of the maya" but you again run into the problem of assuming that because you like something, that makes it more likely to be true.

So I have all these reasons to believe in God in the Christian sense which as you can see outweigh your reasoning for atheism which states you have to scientifically prove something as a fact before you can believe it.

Or at least provide some unambiguous scientific evidence. You are claiming that there exists a being capable of effortlessly bending all of the physical laws of the universe to its whim; surely you do not think that you have actually proven such a thing, do you? This is a tremendous claim; personal feelings and dubious logic aren't going to demonstrate its truth.

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and then this one earned the new guy/gal a Rep from me for truthiness mixed wih an LOL

I don't understand how every post can be this long, and contain nothing but circular drivel, ending with "as you can clearly see, that about wraps it up".

Do you understand what an argument is, what constitutes evidence, or do you simply write until you are satisfied no one will notice they contain neither?

*incoherent rambling*
Bald assertion
*incoherent rambling*
Bald assertion
*incoherent rambling*
Conclusion

This is not a valid argument format.

[Ryantology]

Thought I'd share from another thread:

ONTOLOGICAL LOGIC APPLIED IN REAL LIFE

***Walks into a bank***
"Hi, I'd like to withdraw one million dollars from my checking account."

"Sir, you don't even have an checking account at this bank."

"Well, is it possible I could have an account at this bank?"

"Um, sure, but I don't see..."

"And is it possible that a checking account could have 1 million dollars in it?"

"Well, theoretically, but..."

"And an account with one million dollars would have a million dollars in it, right?"

"Sure but..."

"And if I didn't have an account at this bank, it couldn't have 1 million dollars in it?"

"Exactly, and..."

"So we can imagine that I have a checking account with one million dollars at this bank, such a thing could exist and if it didn't exist, it wouldn't have 1 million dollars in it. So my account with 1 million dollars in it MUST exist."

"Wait! What?"

"So I'd like to withdraw my million dollars, please."

***Get thrown out of the bank***

I think, from now on, I'm going to link to this post every time one of these tards brings that argument up.