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Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
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RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(March 4, 2014 at 2:57 am)Aractus Wrote: .

And my argument to sum it up for you is that preventing unplanned pregnancies is always a far better option then terminating them

I hate to tell you this, but no form of contraception is 100% failproof.

Quote:and that termination leads to long term psychological and psychophysiological disorders

Sorry, but that is absolute bullshit. Although anti abortion fanatics love to spread those lies to scare women away from abortion, ACTUAL evidence indicates the exact opposite:

In 1987, President Reagan asked Surgeon General C. Everett Koop to study the topic of alleged “post-abortion syndrome.” Despite powerful political pressure to identify such a syndrome, and his own personal anti-choice beliefs, Dr. Koop concluded that “the data do not support the premise that abortion does or does not cause or contribute to psychological problems.”

A 1992 American Psychological Association (APA) review found that severe negative psychological reactions to abortion are rare and that the vast majority of women experience a mixture of emotions after an abortion, with positive feelings predominating.

The findings were reaffirmed in 2008 after a 2-year review of the “best scientific evidence published,” APA’s Task Force on Mental Health and Abortion found that women who choose abortion are at no greater risk for mental-health problems.

A 1997 longitudinal study showed that the experience of abortion has no independent effect on the psychological well-being of a woman.
(Source: S. Edwards, Abortion Study Finds No Long-Term Ill Effects on Emotional Well-Being, 29 FAM.PLAN. PERSP. 193, 193-94 (1997).)

A study published in 2000 revealed that two years after the procedure, 72 percent of the women surveyed were satisfied with their decision to have an abortion, 69 percent said they would have the abortion again and 72 percent reported more benefit than harm from their abortion. The small proportion of women who did experience problems tended to have a prior history of depression. (Source: Brenda Major et al., Psychological Responses of Women After First-Trimester Abortion, 57 ARCHIVES GEN.
PSYCHIATRY 777, 777-784 (2000).

Quote:and thus adoption is a preferred option to avoid these

Another clueless statement. Many women who have had to give their children away suffer lifelong issues. Post Adoption Syndrome/Depression is actually a recognized issue.

Quote:And that's backed up by facts and not emotion/opinion.

Wrong.

(February 27, 2014 at 9:44 pm)Aractus Wrote: As CapnAwesome said, how is it magically different from those who pulled their children out of Boyscouts because of their anti-gay policies?

As I recall, those people didn't target and yell at children:

Quote:While a Midland Girl Scout troop sold cookies at Wal Mart, a man walked up to an 8-year-old girl to talk about abortion.

“My 8-year-old was there and he was right up in my face and he used the term. He said ‘how dare your troop leaders teach you about abortion,’” said Tasha Riddle, Girl Scout troop leader.

“The lady walked up to her 5-year-old and was talking to her 5-year-old about Planned Parenthood,” Riddle said.
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#42
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(February 27, 2014 at 10:28 am)No_God Wrote: They call it the "Cookie-Cot"

Quote:As you might know by now, there is a boycott of Girl Scout cookies taking place across the country. The purpose is to expose the connection between the Girl Scouts and the abortion industry. Many still do not know that every box of cookies bought will send money to groups like Planned Parenthood and help fund abortion.

All I have to say is, if you're boycotting Girl Scout Cookies or removing your daughter from an organization known for teaching girls leadership, life skills, self-confidence, and good decision-making skills because of its pro-choice views then you are socially irresponsible and a worthless parent.

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Leftists,feminists, and minority activists blame white males and western civilization for the opresssion of women homosexuals and minorities. this is claiming that slavery for example is a crime that only the white man is capable of atoning for. Also to claim that women carry a burden that men do not due to child birth is saying that all of the suffering of blacks, native americans, and hispanics, were caused by men that only white women were capable of producing. Also I would like to point out to all of those advocates of multiculturalism, equal oppurtunity education, and racial intermarridge. simply by standing for these things you are saying that you believe that black culture is inferior and that the white man NEEDED TO ERASE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH CHRISTIANITY because what else would he practice?
do white men or women that marry blacks care about reconstructing traditional african culture? of course on they don't give a damn what they do care about is sending that child off to play sports and attend a good school. Why are these two examples important because 1 in the south blacks were not allowed to read and for awhile after the civil war not allowed to recieve an education. 2. blacks then protested for the right to participate in the same professional sports as whites. So I ask all of the proponets of thisi ideology in what way the preservation or reconstruction of traditional black culture consist if they are being compensated with an education and participation in sports designed by whites ? so to everyone that identifies themselves as left on this channel fuck you.Also univsersity texbooks state that islam expanded through trade. Thus, the eu and the us wish to make hispanics and arabs nonviolentr through gun control and government sponsored education assistance. All they care about is making these people into a responsible father, making they climb the corporate ladder ect. do they have any respect for mexican or arab culture. Well I think I just anwsered your question
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#43
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(March 6, 2014 at 10:01 pm)DamianThomas Wrote: Sorry, but that is absolute bullshit. Although anti abortion fanatics love to spread those lies to scare women away from abortion, ACTUAL evidence indicates the exact opposite:

In 1987, President Reagan asked Surgeon General C. Everett Koop to study the topic of alleged “post-abortion syndrome.” Despite powerful political pressure to identify such a syndrome, and his own personal anti-choice beliefs, Dr. Koop concluded that “the data do not support the premise that abortion does or does not cause or contribute to psychological problems.”

A 1992 American Psychological Association (APA) review found that severe negative psychological reactions to abortion are rare and that the vast majority of women experience a mixture of emotions after an abortion, with positive feelings predominating.

The findings were reaffirmed in 2008 after a 2-year review of the “best scientific evidence published,” APA’s Task Force on Mental Health and Abortion found that women who choose abortion are at no greater risk for mental-health problems.

A 1997 longitudinal study showed that the experience of abortion has no independent effect on the psychological well-being of a woman.
(Source: S. Edwards, Abortion Study Finds No Long-Term Ill Effects on Emotional Well-Being, 29 FAM.PLAN. PERSP. 193, 193-94 (1997).)

A study published in 2000 revealed that two years after the procedure, 72 percent of the women surveyed were satisfied with their decision to have an abortion, 69 percent said they would have the abortion again and 72 percent reported more benefit than harm from their abortion. The small proportion of women who did experience problems tended to have a prior history of depression. (Source: Brenda Major et al., Psychological Responses of Women After First-Trimester Abortion, 57 ARCHIVES GEN.
PSYCHIATRY 777, 777-784 (2000).
All you've done is parrot back the "results" from studies you were spoon-fed, and furthermore you only concerned yourself with Americans.

Did you know for instance that alcohol is much much worse for Aborigines than for Anglo Saxons?

Did you know for instance that Indians, Africans and South Asians who are just a little bit overweight are much more at risk at developing Type 2 Diabetes than an Anglos Saxon that is a little bit overweight? In fact, you could actually conduct a study comprised of your choice of Anglo Saxon's to prove that being a small amount overweight won't increase the risk of developing Type 2 Diabetes. And that would be a form of deliberate data mining. And Type 2 Diabetes is 1. recognized as preventable, and 2. recognized as a global pandemic and especially in India and South Asia.

So I'll ask you a question - if you saw a study that proved that Post Abortion Stress Syndrome is a very real threat, would your opinion change?
Quote:Another clueless statement. Many women who have had to give their children away suffer lifelong issues. Post Adoption Syndrome/Depression is actually a recognized issue.
So what? Chronic Fatigue is a recognized syndrome, and yet in America studies showed that in at least 30% of medically diagnosed cases of CF that the symptoms were in fact caused by intestinal worms.
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#44
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(March 6, 2014 at 10:50 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: Leftists,feminists, and minority activists blame white males and western civilization for the opresssion of women homosexuals and minorities. this is claiming that slavery for example is a crime that only the white man is capable of atoning for. Also to claim that women carry a burden that men do not due to child birth is saying that all of the suffering of blacks, native americans, and hispanics, were caused by men that only white women were capable of producing. Also I would like to point out to all of those advocates of multiculturalism, equal oppurtunity education, and racial intermarridge. simply by standing for these things you are saying that you believe that black culture is inferior and that the white man NEEDED TO ERASE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH CHRISTIANITY because what else would he practice?
do white men or women that marry blacks care about reconstructing traditional african culture? of course on they don't give a damn what they do care about is sending that child off to play sports and attend a good school. Why are these two examples important because 1 in the south blacks were not allowed to read and for awhile after the civil war not allowed to recieve an education. 2. blacks then protested for the right to participate in the same professional sports as whites. So I ask all of the proponets of thisi ideology in what way the preservation or reconstruction of traditional black culture consist if they are being compensated with an education and participation in sports designed by whites ? so to everyone that identifies themselves as left on this channel fuck you.Also univsersity texbooks state that islam expanded through trade. Thus, the eu and the us wish to make hispanics and arabs nonviolentr through gun control and government sponsored education assistance. All they care about is making these people into a responsible father, making they climb the corporate ladder ect. do they have any respect for mexican or arab culture. Well I think I just anwsered your question

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(March 6, 2014 at 10:53 pm)Aractus Wrote: All you've done is parrot back the "results" from studies you were spoon-fed

"Spoonfed." That's cute. If anyone here is spoonfed, its you with your ludicrous claims about abortion causing mental harm, the same things ignorant antis spew as a fear tactic. You have posted no sources to the contrary and instead depended on red herrings and personal insults, the classic signs of a weak debater.

Quote:And and furthermore you only concerned yourself with Americans.

As opposed to...?

Quote:Did you know for instance that alcohol is much much worse for Aborigines than for Anglo Saxons? Did you know for instance that Indians, Africans and South Asians who are just a little bit overweight are much more at risk at developing Type 2 Diabetes than an Anglos Saxon that is a little bit overweight? In fact, you could actually conduct a study comprised of your choice of Anglo Saxon's to prove that being a small amount overweight won't increase the risk of developing Type 2 Diabetes. And that would be a form of deliberate data mining. And Type 2 Diabetes is 1. recognized as preventable, and 2. recognized as a global pandemic and especially in India and South Asia.

What does that have to do with anything?

And did you know that abortions have been practiced by all the cultures you listed for over 4000 years?

Quote:So I'll ask you a question - if you saw a study that proved that Post Abortion Stress Syndrome is a very real threat, would your opinion change?

If the evidence supported it, then yes. But the truth is that studies have all indicated that "Post Abortion Stress Syndrome" is a load of bullshit, just like the abortion-breast cancer myth.

Quote:So what? Chronic Fatigue is a recognized syndrome, and yet in America studies showed that in at least 30% of medically diagnosed cases of CF that the symptoms were in fact caused by intestinal worms.

"So what." So much for caring about women. And WTF does CF have to do with anything?
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#45
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(March 6, 2014 at 11:02 pm)DamianThomas Wrote:
(March 6, 2014 at 10:50 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: Leftists,feminists, and minority activists blame white males and western civilization for the opresssion of women homosexuals and minorities. this is claiming that slavery for example is a crime that only the white man is capable of atoning for. Also to claim that women carry a burden that men do not due to child birth is saying that all of the suffering of blacks, native americans, and hispanics, were caused by men that only white women were capable of producing. Also I would like to point out to all of those advocates of multiculturalism, equal oppurtunity education, and racial intermarridge. simply by standing for these things you are saying that you believe that black culture is inferior and that the white man NEEDED TO ERASE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH CHRISTIANITY because what else would he practice?
do white men or women that marry blacks care about reconstructing traditional african culture? of course on they don't give a damn what they do care about is sending that child off to play sports and attend a good school. Why are these two examples important because 1 in the south blacks were not allowed to read and for awhile after the civil war not allowed to recieve an education. 2. blacks then protested for the right to participate in the same professional sports as whites. So I ask all of the proponets of thisi ideology in what way the preservation or reconstruction of traditional black culture consist if they are being compensated with an education and participation in sports designed by whites ? so to everyone that identifies themselves as left on this channel fuck you.Also univsersity texbooks state that islam expanded through trade. Thus, the eu and the us wish to make hispanics and arabs nonviolentr through gun control and government sponsored education assistance. All they care about is making these people into a responsible father, making they climb the corporate ladder ect. do they have any respect for mexican or arab culture. Well I think I just anwsered your question

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(March 6, 2014 at 10:53 pm)Aractus Wrote: All you've done is parrot back the "results" from studies you were spoon-fed

"Spoonfed." That's cute. If anyone here is spoonfed, its you with your ludicrous claims about abortion causing mental harm, the same things ignorant antis spew as a fear tactic. You have posted no sources to the contrary and instead depended on red herrings and personal insults, the classic signs of a weak debater.

Quote:And and furthermore you only concerned yourself with Americans.

As opposed to...?

Quote:Did you know for instance that alcohol is much much worse for Aborigines than for Anglo Saxons? Did you know for instance that Indians, Africans and South Asians who are just a little bit overweight are much more at risk at developing Type 2 Diabetes than an Anglos Saxon that is a little bit overweight? In fact, you could actually conduct a study comprised of your choice of Anglo Saxon's to prove that being a small amount overweight won't increase the risk of developing Type 2 Diabetes. And that would be a form of deliberate data mining. And Type 2 Diabetes is 1. recognized as preventable, and 2. recognized as a global pandemic and especially in India and South Asia.

What does that have to do with anything?

And did you know that abortions have been practiced by all the cultures you listed for over 4000 years?

Quote:So I'll ask you a question - if you saw a study that proved that Post Abortion Stress Syndrome is a very real threat, would your opinion change?

If the evidence supported it, then yes. But the truth is that studies have all indicated that "Post Abortion Stress Syndrome" is a load of bullshit, just like the abortion-breast cancer myth.

Quote:So what? Chronic Fatigue is a recognized syndrome, and yet in America studies showed that in at least 30% of medically diagnosed cases of CF that the symptoms were in fact caused by intestinal worms.

"So what." So much for caring about women. And WTF does CF have to do with anything?
think about it in context with the discussion
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#46
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
Wow, this thread has really drawn the crazies.
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#47
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(March 6, 2014 at 11:12 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: Wow, this thread has really drawn the crazies.

Leftists,feminists, and minority activists blame white males and western civilization for the opresssion of women homosexuals and minorities. this is claiming that slavery for example is a crime that only the white man is capable of atoning for. Also to claim that women carry a burden that men do not due to child birth is saying that all of the suffering of blacks, native americans, and hispanics, were caused by men that only white women were capable of producing. Also I would like to point out to all of those advocates of multiculturalism, equal oppurtunity education, and racial intermarridge. simply by standing for these things you are saying that you believe that black culture is inferior and that the white man NEEDED TO ERASE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH CHRISTIANITY because what else would he practice?
do white men or women that marry blacks care about reconstructing traditional african culture? of course on they don't give a damn what they do care about is sending that child off to play sports and attend a good school. Why are these two examples important because 1 in the south blacks were not allowed to read and for awhile after the civil war not allowed to recieve an education. 2. blacks then protested for the right to participate in the same professional sports as whites. So I ask all of the proponets of thisi ideology in what way the preservation or reconstruction of traditional black culture consist if they are being compensated with an education and participation in sports designed by whites ? so to everyone that identifies themselves as left on this channel fuck you.Also univsersity texbooks state that islam expanded through trade. Thus, the eu and the us wish to make hispanics and arabs nonviolentr through gun control and government sponsored education assistance. All they care about is making these people into a responsible father, making they climb the corporate ladder ect. do they have any respect for mexican or arab culture. Well I think I just anwsered your question
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#48
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
Can you get banned for spamming the same post repeatedly?
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#49
RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(March 6, 2014 at 11:16 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: Can you get banned for spamming the same post repeatedly?

probably i am gonna stop now because i enjoy chatting with atheists but that dosent change the fact that what i'm saying is true
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RE: Anti-Choice groups are targeting The Girl Scouts
(March 6, 2014 at 11:19 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: probably i am gonna stop now because i enjoy chatting with atheists but that dosent change the fact that what i'm saying is true
Please do, crazytown.
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