Evidence God Exists

[Zen Badger]

lol i think we are all just little kids that want to be loved, growing up is just a result of selfishness, ours and other peoples clouding the love we represent

What does this even mean???

[Godscreated]

Thor you need to go back and read #303 I know what I said. I did not think you would argue the point. It would be difficult for a nonbeliever to argue for the belief of a christian. Thanks for the answer.

And post 256 came BEFORE post 303. Like I said, you suddenly switched what you were saying. But I see you refuse to admit this, even when confronted with your own words.

Thor I can see that you are as hardheaded as I am so this is the last time I will state this I used the term believer in 256 to qualify the word christian to mean one who is saved through Jesus. I'm sure you will not go back and read what was stated and even if I had not used believer as a qualifier as far as you were concerned the use of the word christian was synonymous with salvation. The reason I say this because I do not think you ever thought that a person referred to as christian might not be saved.

Min I saw nothing that needed to be answered.

Have I judged anyone in this forum besides Min I think not and if I have show me please. As for Min if he is going to direct comments about a person then he needs to be able to accept a little in return.

[Autumnlicious]

I don't believe in fairytales. Because I've grown up.

If you still think a dead jew came back to life you need to grow up some more.

I like to think of the old phrase, if everyone jumped off a cliff, would you?

Here is my variation: If everyone believed in a cosmic jewish zombie, would you?

[Thor]

just like everyone else im gonna take my beliefs to the grave and see what happens.

And what if you find out that there IS a god, but he only allows those people into heaven who have the courage of their convictions NOT to believe in him?

[Autumnlicious]

just like everyone else im gonna take my beliefs to the grave and see what happens.

And what if you find out that there IS a god, but he only allows those people into heaven who have the courage of their convictions NOT to believe in him?

Here we see the principle of explosion - if we assume contradictory axioms, in this case that people can have infinite ideas and people under specific conditions offered by a subset of undefined ideas may get to heaven, then one can derive an infinite amount of cases dealing with getting to a heaven or not.

[divermike]

just like everyone else im gonna take my beliefs to the grave and see what happens.

And what if you find out that there IS a god, but he only allows those people into heaven who have the courage of their convictions NOT to believe in him?

lol

[AngelThMan]

I understand the rules. I wasn't using the bible as evidence. I was stating that the claims made in the bible are corroborated by my evidence. Consider this allegory: Someone finds a diary, and a passage describes that a body was dumped in the desert. Is it real, or is it fiction? A team goes out to the desert and indeed finds the body, which corroborates what's written in the diary. Sapient intelligence represents that body. It corroborates the bible's claim that man was created in the image of God, and that animals are inferior.

This is circular reasoning at its best.
The bible was written by men, of course it's going to claim that man is gods favorite.
How is our intelligence corroboration of us saying we are gods chosen?

This is not circular reasoning at all. When the bible claims that man is made in the image of God, and that man is superior to animals, it is not said in the same context as I'm using it here. In other words, no one was saying "the fact that we are the only species with sapient intelligent is evidence there's a God." I'm the one making this claim. What we see around us corroborates what was written in the bible, in passages written with entirely different purposes.

* I'm obviously dealing with very young people here, because their arguments remind me a little bit of kindergarten.

Just so you know, I'm a father of six and a grandfather to six more.

Nice!

[Minimalist]

Min I saw nothing that needed to be answered.

Of course not. Your kind never does.

[tackattack]

could you specify your kind please min.. I want to know whether I should rant or not

[Minimalist]

Bible-thumping jackasses.