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All Hail the Second Amendment
RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
Should there or should there not be a national registry? I'm thinking yes; we have to register our vehicles, which are all kinds of dangerous and costly, so why be against this same practice for another dangerous and costly object?
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(March 21, 2014 at 8:11 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Should there or should there not be a national registry? I'm thinking yes; we have to register our vehicles, which are all kinds of dangerous and costly, so why be against this same practice for another dangerous and costly object?

There is no national registry for vehicles.
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(March 21, 2014 at 8:39 pm)Chas Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 8:11 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Should there or should there not be a national registry? I'm thinking yes; we have to register our vehicles, which are all kinds of dangerous and costly, so why be against this same practice for another dangerous and costly object?

There is no national registry for vehicles.

But that's not a reason to not have a registry at all, at any level. So why or why not?

(March 21, 2014 at 9:15 pm)KUSA Wrote: [Image: pabamepu.jpg]

Paranoid much?

Is there a GOOD reason not to have a registry besides straw man arguments?
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No straw man here.
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Asserting there's no straw man doesn't mean you didn't use one. Dodgy But since you brought it up, how does one register a right? Now, while you mull over that conundrum, please explain why registration is detrimental. Should we stop registering cars? Pets? Should it be mandatory, a choice, nothing? What and why?

And, KUSA, a bit of extra info pertaining to your straw man; why are you worried about someone confiscating your weapon? Is there something you aren't telling us? Your assertion that registration leads to confiscation begs the question of "Why would you lose your guns?"
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(March 21, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 8:39 pm)Chas Wrote: There is no national registry for vehicles.

But that's not a reason to not have a registry at all, at any level. So why or why not?

I am pointing out that your comparison was flawed. Had you left out the word 'national' it would be a valid comparison.

Here in Massachusetts, firearms transactions are recorded by the state.
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(March 21, 2014 at 10:51 pm)Chas Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: But that's not a reason to not have a registry at all, at any level. So why or why not?

I am pointing out that your comparison was flawed. Had you left out the word 'national' it would be a valid comparison.

Here in Massachusetts, firearms transactions are recorded by the state.

Ah.

I suppose I should follow up and ask why it's necessary there?
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(March 21, 2014 at 10:35 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Asserting there's no straw man doesn't mean you didn't use one. :dodgy: But since you brought it up, how does one register a right? Now, while you mull over that conundrum, please explain why registration is detrimental. Should we stop registering cars? Pets? Should it be mandatory, a choice, nothing? What and why?

And, KUSA, a bit of extra info pertaining to your straw man; why are you worried about someone confiscating your weapon? Is there something you aren't telling us? Your assertion that registration leads to confiscation begs the question of "Why would you lose your guns?"

Perhaps you can explain why you want gun registration and what the benefits would be in doing it.
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(March 22, 2014 at 12:55 am)KUSA Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 10:35 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Asserting there's no straw man doesn't mean you didn't use one. Dodgy But since you brought it up, how does one register a right? Now, while you mull over that conundrum, please explain why registration is detrimental. Should we stop registering cars? Pets? Should it be mandatory, a choice, nothing? What and why?

And, KUSA, a bit of extra info pertaining to your straw man; why are you worried about someone confiscating your weapon? Is there something you aren't telling us? Your assertion that registration leads to confiscation begs the question of "Why would you lose your guns?"

Perhaps you can explain why you want gun registration and what the benefits would be in doing it.

That wasn't my question. All I said was that it seems to be a hot-button issue, and I'm trying to find out why. Aside from the typical "It's unnecessary cause 'Murica'" response that seem to be your only ammo, I want to know why it's such a horrible thing. Shifting the question on to me won't get this discussion any further, as I've already admitted not to even have further information. Or...I'm just asking the wrong individuals.

If you couldn't tell, I'm also trying to find out more about why its a good thing. Just saying that it isn't and slapping me with a strawman meme isn't getting you anywhere with me.
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