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The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 8, 2014 at 8:31 am)Chas Wrote: Do you think that quoting someone else's bullshit without attribution is honest? Thou shalt not steal.

And do you actually think that the Institute for Creation Research is scientifically credible? Here's where you stole that text from.

sorry I didn't paste the whole thing

Doesn't matter if you pasted the whole thing or just one line; it's still plagiarism if, by omission of attribution, you imply that the material is your own. The rules are quite clear on this. Please don't do it again.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.

Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. He tomb was empty on three days after His death. He appeared to His disciples. These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world. Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ. The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth. Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.

We? speak for yourself..
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 2:09 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: If I am to accept what you say, I would have to do so without any real evidence to back it up. I would have to be gullible and stupid.

It really makes you think about exactly what Yahweh would be testing if all this crap WERE true, doesn't it? Christians (and Muslims) often say life is a test but what is being tested and why? Logically, tests are made to separate one group for another, so that the preferable group can be selected. The way a test is structured tells you something about what the tester is searching for.

When I test perspective technician trainees, the tests involve manual dexterity and are structured to separate the deft from the butterfingered. That tells you something about what the job involves and what I as an employer am looking for. You might guess rightly that the job involves intricate craftsmanship and fine attention to detail.

So what's Yahweh looking for and why?

The test,put bluntly, is all about gullibility. The boot-licking, mindless, sycophantic mortals who'll be amoral enough to serve and kiss the ass of a sadistic tormentor just for their own selfish gains are more likely to pass the test. What role are they supposed to play that their god needs to weed out the critical thinkers and those who have principles and self-esteem?

The answers evoke the speculations of Hitchens that Heaven is like a celestial North Korea.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thackerie Wrote: I personally have nothing to repent for. Every time some christian arsehole tells us to repent, he or she is actually telling us we're bad people and implying that the christian is better than us.

It's a lie and an insult ... and a damn stupid way to try to recruit followers.

What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thackerie Wrote: I personally have nothing to repent for. Every time some christian arsehole tells us to repent, he or she is actually telling us we're bad people and implying that the christian is better than us.

It's a lie and an insult ... and a damn stupid way to try to recruit followers.

What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.

Then there is the question -- why? Why should we be forgiven of our sins? And why would an all-knowing and all wise entity choose a human sacrifice as a mechanism for forgiveness?

I thought that human sacrifice was a product of a primitive, barbaric, ignorant, and small-minded society.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste -- don't pollute it with bullshit.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thackerie Wrote: I personally have nothing to repent for. Every time some christian arsehole tells us to repent, he or she is actually telling us we're bad people and implying that the christian is better than us.

It's a lie and an insult ... and a damn stupid way to try to recruit followers.

What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.

God has declared that every person has sinned. That is what we need salvation from.

(April 10, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(April 9, 2014 at 11:25 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: most of the prophesies are yet to come
And they will remain so. You do understand that generations of men have been certain that they would see the second coming of Christ, only to grow old and die without having that expectation fulfilled? The end of all things has been "very close" for centuries. But I bet you're pretty sure that this time, it's legit.

We are getting closer. You may see things in your lifetime. Time is running short. The end of the age is at hand.
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Rev, I think every post you make needs to come with one of these:

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That's the most important bit you keep missing.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 10:26 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 10, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.

God has declared that every person has sinned. That is what we need salvation from.

(April 10, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Tonus Wrote: And they will remain so. You do understand that generations of men have been certain that they would see the second coming of Christ, only to grow old and die without having that expectation fulfilled? The end of all things has been "very close" for centuries. But I bet you're pretty sure that this time, it's legit.

We are getting closer. You may see things in your lifetime. Time is running short. The end of the age is at hand.

But the concept of "original sin" is a truly vile one.

If your great grandfather smurdered someone, should you be held accountable?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thackerie Wrote:
(April 9, 2014 at 11:28 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: What makes you think that anyone should take this idiotic bullshit seriously? We shouldn't.

I personally have nothing to repent for. Every time some christian arsehole tells us to repent, he or she is actually telling us we're bad people and implying that the christian is better than us.

It's a lie and an insult ... and a damn stupid way to try to recruit followers.

According to the Scriptures, which is true. We all are sinners and by our nature, enemies with God. I am a sinner and was a rebel until He saved my soul. I am now a sinner under grace.

(April 10, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote:
(April 10, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.

Then there is the question -- why? Why should we be forgiven of our sins? And why would an all-knowing and all wise entity choose a human sacrifice as a mechanism for forgiveness?

I thought that human sacrifice was a product of a primitive, barbaric, ignorant, and small-minded society.

God made the rules. When you make your own universe then do as you wish. Cool Shades
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 10:32 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: According to the Scriptures, which is true. We all are sinners and by our nature, enemies with God. I am a sinner and was a rebel until He saved my soul. I am now a sinner under grace.

And nobody cares! Haven't you got that by now?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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