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The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
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Consider him mocked.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 16, 2014 at 8:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(April 16, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: God will not be mocked. You can mock me all you want.

Let him smite me then, if he doesn't like it. I dare him. I double dog dare him.

Dude, come on, Thor already took the lightening bit. If you are going to double dog dare God to do something, dare him to streak at a sporting event, or eat a spoon of cinnamon. Or maybe dare him to do something like the show Jackass.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 16, 2014 at 8:41 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:
(April 16, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I would feel safer with someone who fears God than someone who feels they have no accountability to anyone. Just my opinion.

That's odd. I feel safer around people who don't need instructions like "don't murder," "don't steal," and "don't bang your neighbor's wife" with the threat of eternal punishment as a consequence.

But given that the Bible and God himself repeatedly endorses and instructs God's followers to sack a city, kill all the children and rape the women, why do you think it is we don't see Christians doing more of that?

Interestingly, many criminals and most serial killers are Christian.

The misery of prisons does wonders for turning people to religion. Prison is a gold-mine for missionaries.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 16, 2014 at 8:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(April 16, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: God will not be mocked. You can mock me all you want.

Let him smite me then, if he doesn't like it. I dare him. I double dog dare him.


God is too senile and old to be mocked now. He caught some fairy dust syphilis while knocking up trashy whores down in israel a while back and it has made him a vegetable. He can't do anything other than fart black holes now..
Find the cure for Fundementia!
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 16, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(April 16, 2014 at 8:41 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: That's odd. I feel safer around people who don't need instructions like "don't murder," "don't steal," and "don't bang your neighbor's wife" with the threat of eternal punishment as a consequence.

But given that the Bible and God himself repeatedly endorses and instructs God's followers to sack a city, kill all the children and rape the women, why do you think it is we don't see Christians doing more of that?

Interestingly, many criminals and most serial killers are Christian.

The misery of prisons does wonders for turning people to religion. Prison is a gold-mine for missionaries.

Yeah, can't imagine why missionaries have such an easy time converting potentially guilt-ridden criminals looking for an easy out from their guilt and responsibility.

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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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Missionaries love a captive audience. One that has been patted down for shivs, for preference.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 16, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(April 16, 2014 at 8:41 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: That's odd. I feel safer around people who don't need instructions like "don't murder," "don't steal," and "don't bang your neighbor's wife" with the threat of eternal punishment as a consequence.

But given that the Bible and God himself repeatedly endorses and instructs God's followers to sack a city, kill all the children and rape the women, why do you think it is we don't see Christians doing more of that?

Interestingly, many criminals and most serial killers are Christian.

The misery of prisons does wonders for turning people to religion. Prison is a gold-mine for missionaries.

not true

(April 16, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(April 16, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I would feel safer with someone who fears God than someone who feels they have no accountability to anyone. Just my opinion.


Most Jews have been blinded because they have rejected the Messiah. Islam has minimized Jesus as just a prophet. Christians have accepted Jesus as He claimed to be - the Son of God.

Emphasis on the "claimed to be".

THere have been thousands who have made the same claim.

The movie "The Life of Brian", showing many prophets standing on the streets has been described as historically accurate.

To quote a Dire Straits song,

"Two men say they're Jesus,
One of them must be wrong!"

ROFLOL

So you place your faith on "Life of Brian" and Dire Straits?
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 16, 2014 at 10:44 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: So you place your faith on "Life of Brian" and Dire Straits?

That's better than placing faith in some anonymous Christian on the internet that refuses to elaborate upon or substantiate any of his/her claims.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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(April 15, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(April 15, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Have you ever thought that perhaps your sources are bias towards atheism?

I don't even know what that would look like; how does one present a bias toward not automatically accepting god claims without evidence that isn't also just an acceptance of rational thought, devoid of special pleading? Thinking

I know it might make you feel better to pretend that everything that disagrees with you is just biased, or hates your god, or whatever, rather than that they have a legitimate point to makes, but that's just nonsense. What would be the motivation? Anyone who secretly knows god exists but hates him isn't doing himself a favor by trying to dissuade anyone else from believing in him, and also logically knows that because he does believe god exists. As for science and scientists, they follow where the evidence leads; if there was actually a trail of evidence leading to the god conclusion that is as convincing as you seem to think it is, any scientist worth their salt would be mad not to follow it and present that to the world. That's Nobel Prize winning stuff, the kind of thing that'd get you showered in grant money and fame... and that's not even taking into account the vast, multi-million dollar "christian science" apparatus out there; why haven't they published anything worth a damn?

I know it feels better to cast yourself as the persecuted hero class in some huge conspiracy, but that is literally the most nonsensical way you could spin this; you're asking me to believe in a unified "bias" against your god across every strata of the scientific community- many of whom are religious, not to mention that this is a worldwide thing- that operates exclusively against the interests of everyone involved, and has literally no benefit to anyone, except that it makes christians like you feel better about having no credible support. It's ridiculous.

More importantly, if you can find me a single science source that has a "statement of faith" anywhere in it, that says that any evidence that contradicts a certain worldview will be outright ignored, and states that with pride, guess what you will have found?

A source of information I no longer trust.

You are right, science is not based on faith but on facts. Christianity is based on faith. That is why it is a bit silly to keep insisting that Christian provides facts in order for you to believe. You do not have faith there is a God, I do. I believe what science has to say except for the things it just can't prove. Like I said before, science can not answer every question.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 16, 2014 at 10:44 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 16, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Polaris Wrote: The misery of prisons does wonders for turning people to religion. Prison is a gold-mine for missionaries.

not true

(April 16, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Beccs Wrote: Emphasis on the "claimed to be".

THere have been thousands who have made the same claim.

The movie "The Life of Brian", showing many prophets standing on the streets has been described as historically accurate.

To quote a Dire Straits song,

"Two men say they're Jesus,
One of them must be wrong!"

ROFLOL

So you place your faith on "Life of Brian" and Dire Straits?

Now, go back and read carefully what I said again.

Now, read it again.

I don't have faith in movies or in musicians/bands.

If I did, it would make more sense than putting my faith in the evil being the Abrahamic religions call "God, Allah, or Yahweh."

At least those bands and movies exist.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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