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Poll: Which statement describes most accurately your understanding of the label atheism?
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The doctrine of belief that there is no god
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The disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings
65.71%
46 65.71%
Other (please explain)
34.29%
24 34.29%
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Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
(April 29, 2014 at 6:52 am)fr0d0 Wrote: My 21st century 1st world environment is pretty screwed.

No it's not too much. It's absolutely correct.

Sure it's used, abused, misunderstood.

And many of those abuses and whatnot are/have been informed by the belief in god.
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
(April 29, 2014 at 8:30 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Fr0d0, if there's no evidence at all for the supernatural, then you have absolutely zero good reasons to believe in a supernatural deity. And yet you do. Why?

The problem is purely intellectual. Assuming supernatural influence, purpose can be understood. God can be understood.

Understanding is knowledge is what faith is built on.

(April 29, 2014 at 8:43 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(April 29, 2014 at 6:52 am)fr0d0 Wrote: My 21st century 1st world environment is pretty screwed.

No it's not too much. It's absolutely correct.

Sure it's used, abused, misunderstood.

And many of those abuses and whatnot are/have been informed by the belief in god.

Anything can be abused. A beautiful girl might be used to lure innocent victims > therefore we should kill all beautiful girls?
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
(April 29, 2014 at 9:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(April 29, 2014 at 8:30 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Fr0d0, if there's no evidence at all for the supernatural, then you have absolutely zero good reasons to believe in a supernatural deity. And yet you do. Why?

The problem is purely intellectual. Assuming supernatural influence, purpose can be understood. God can be understood.

Understanding is knowledge is what faith is built on.
"Assuming supernatural influence"? really?
That's your starting point?

I am disappoint.

(April 29, 2014 at 9:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(April 29, 2014 at 8:43 am)pocaracas Wrote: And many of those abuses and whatnot are/have been informed by the belief in god.

Anything can be abused. A beautiful girl might be used to lure innocent victims > therefore we should kill all beautiful girls?

"anything" is such a strong word... Tongue
It's like "always" and "never". I don't like them.

I like beautiful girls... bring them on! Wink

Now seriously, what does that have to do with anything we're talking about?!
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
If you want to understand something, you shouldn't begin with an assumption. That's your first mistake.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
(April 29, 2014 at 9:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(April 29, 2014 at 8:30 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Fr0d0, if there's no evidence at all for the supernatural, then you have absolutely zero good reasons to believe in a supernatural deity. And yet you do. Why?

The problem is purely intellectual. Assuming supernatural influence, purpose can be understood. God can be understood.

Assume first, ask questions later. Well, in this case, no questions were asked; blind following instead ensued. This is the complete antithesis of intellectual.

So you think there's supernatural influence, but you have no evidence for such. Why assume at all?

Quote:Understanding is knowledge is what faith is built on.

Faith is not knowledge, nor does it have a basis in knowledge. Try again.

Or just stop trying. Wink
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Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
Notice how Frodo has ignored or refused to answer any questions about his irrational belief in his deity, and jumped straight to more presuppositional bullshit.


(April 29, 2014 at 9:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The problem is purely intellectual. Assuming supernatural influence, purpose can be understood. God can be understood.

Understanding is knowledge is what faith is built on.

This is complete, Deepak Chopra level horse shit, based on nothing but a jumble of bald assertions that don't mean anything.

"How does your specific deity escape the same examination as other supernatural beliefs?"

"Information quiets incredible brains"

"What? Why can't you answer the question?"

"Infinity reflects new reality"

"What? Answer the question."

"The human nervous system illuminates subjective creativity"

What? Try to stay on topic, answer the question.

"I have answered the question repeatedly, your claim is wrong because I presuppose otherwise."

Congrats to Frodo for being full of so much shit he can't even compose a cogent response without spewing more bullshit to cover up his bullshit.
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
(April 29, 2014 at 12:09 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Notice how Frodo has ignored or refused to answer any questions about his irrational belief in his deity, and jumped straight to more presuppositional bullshit.

He's been taking deflection lessons from Wonder Woman.

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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
Quote:'pocaracas' pid='659986' dateline='1398778632']

"Assuming supernatural influence"? really?
That's your starting point?

Brain power is needed i'm afraid. Are you out? Smile

The starting point is reality. From reality we observe logic. From logic we deduce what must be logical. From what we know, we predict what we don't know. Accuracy depends on the quality and completeness of the subject.

(April 29, 2014 at 9:37 am)pocaracas Wrote:
Quote:Anything can be abused. A beautiful girl might be used to lure innocent victims > therefore we should kill all beautiful girls?

"anything" is such a strong word... Tongue
It's like "always" and "never". I don't like them.

I like beautiful girls... bring them on! Wink

Now seriously, what does that have to do with anything we're talking about?!

You said that we could dismiss religion because some things which are bad have been done in its name.

(April 29, 2014 at 10:05 am)Chad32 Wrote: If you want to understand something, you shouldn't begin with an assumption. That's your first mistake.

Would you apply that to scientific discoveries?

I assume that you're human. I test for human. Human test passed. Subject assumed to be human.

Please demonstrate the fault with this process. I'm not disagreeing with you, as I don't need to. I'm merely interested.
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
(April 29, 2014 at 9:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(April 29, 2014 at 8:30 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Fr0d0, if there's no evidence at all for the supernatural, then you have absolutely zero good reasons to believe in a supernatural deity. And yet you do. Why?

The problem is purely intellectual. Assuming supernatural influence, purpose can be understood. God can be understood.

Understanding is knowledge is what faith is built on.

With no ability to actually know that your assumption is true, or is even based upon truth, what makes you think you can gain any kind of knowledge from your belief?

Assuming supernatural influence with no ability to test that assumption merely means that purpose, and God, can not be understood but merely assumed in the same manner, and with the same lack of concern over whether or not there's actually anything there.

Quote:Anything can be abused. A beautiful girl might be used to lure innocent victims > therefore we should kill all beautiful girls?

Sounds like just the sort of assertion (plus supporting logic) that you would find in the OT somewhere.
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
Posted by Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:With no ability to actually know that your assumption is true, or is even based upon truth, what makes you think you can gain any kind of knowledge from your belief?

We call what cannot be faulted knowledge. If you can't fault a premise, then you can build on that premise, as long as it stands unrefuted.

Your materialism is destroyed.
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