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Evidence God Exists
RE: Evidence God Exists
(April 23, 2010 at 3:38 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Humans are the only species with sapient and sentient intelligence. This is a gift because it has allowed us to conquer the world like no other animal. Our species is the only one capable of believing in a deity, so it's conceptually sound to surmise that we have been set apart. And all that = God exists.

Excuse me.... we are the only creatures with intelligence (sapient and sentient)? Depends on what yardstick you are using, but Monkey's and Dolphins both are generally recognized as being fairly intelligent on the scale of things (using another yardstick many would not consider humans to be all that intelligent).

Perhaps you were meaning we are capable of abstract thoughts? Possibly... nobody has every managed to ask a monkey yet whether they have a concept of god, but maybe they are capable of displaying awareness of abstract thoughts in another way... hmmm, a question for an expert.

As for conquering... LOL. Dinosaurs once rules the world and until that time our distant ancestors were hiding under bushes whenever a dinosaur was near.

And your conclusion stinks. Our species is the only capable of believing in the Flying Spaghetti Monsiter as well, or for that matter writing fiction about dragons. You know our ancestors believed the world was flat, at the center of the universe, riding on the back of a giant turtle, etc... we have believed lots of crap throughout the millennia. We used to worship the sun and some used to kill children and virgins to satisfy their deities.

Just because we are capable of a belief proves nothing.
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RE: Evidence God Exists
I would point out that Dinosaurs dominated the Earth for 165 million years.

A time span several orders of magnitude greater than our time of "dominance".

Would you say that is proof of god?

As to our domination of the planet, let's explore what that entails, shall we?

Can we control the weather? No.

Can we prevent earthquakes? No.

Can we avert Hurricanes and cyclones? No.

Could we prevent a K/T event Meteorite from striking the Earth? No.

Stop Tsunamis? Weellll....... No.

Eliminate disease causing bacteria? No.

Stop locust plagues? guess not.

Destroy all higher lifeforms in a nuclear holocaust? Fuck yeah! Do that no problem!!!!!

So your claims of our world domination ring rather hollow when examined closely.
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RE: Evidence God Exists
(April 26, 2010 at 2:17 am)tavarish Wrote:
(April 26, 2010 at 12:27 am)lukec Wrote: Alrighty- Ok Angel, I too am coming late to this, sorry about that- what evidence do you have of a God, OTHER than the Bible? Was that stated in here?

Humans are intelligent and rule the world = God exists.

He's been shown countless examples of how this isn't the case and he's ignored them and called everyone naive youngsters.

That's the gist of it.
And Tav, as well as others, have denied we have control of the world, with juvenile, sci-fi arguments like: bacteria really rule the world, and rodents can chew through metal. Might as well properly brief the guy.
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RE: Evidence God Exists
Ok cool so your evidence, right or wrong, is that humans are now the dominant species?

But this could also have occurred through evolution so... how is this evidence for god?
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RE: Evidence God Exists
Listen, Angel... the so-called 'evidence' you have thus far provided has been soundly debunked by numerous people. It has been so thoroughly debunked and disregarded that people are simply making fun of it now, because you cannot seem to move on to whatever is next. So that is the question: What else ya got?
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RE: Evidence God Exists
(April 26, 2010 at 1:26 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: Listen, Angel... the so-called 'evidence' you have thus far provided has been soundly debunked by numerous people. It has been so thoroughly debunked and disregarded that people are simply making fun of it now, because you cannot seem to move on to whatever is next. So that is the question: What else ya got?

He obviously has nothing else or he wouldve stopped banging on about it by now.

'god exists because we is smart' is his only shitty argument and hes gonna stick with it no matter what.

It was funny for a while buts it got boring.



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RE: Evidence God Exists
(April 26, 2010 at 1:16 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:
(April 26, 2010 at 2:17 am)tavarish Wrote:
(April 26, 2010 at 12:27 am)lukec Wrote: Alrighty- Ok Angel, I too am coming late to this, sorry about that- what evidence do you have of a God, OTHER than the Bible? Was that stated in here?

Humans are intelligent and rule the world = God exists.

He's been shown countless examples of how this isn't the case and he's ignored them and called everyone naive youngsters.

That's the gist of it.
And Tav, as well as others, have denied we have control of the world, with juvenile, sci-fi arguments like: bacteria really rule the world, and rodents can chew through metal. Might as well properly brief the guy.

Did you even read the post before this one, or are you just choosing posts at random to read?
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RE: Evidence God Exists
I must admit, I only read through the last pages here. However, I don't really see what the matter of discussion is.
With the "right" definition of "dominate", I think I can agree that we humans "dominate" the world. But then, how can this be proof for the existence of a god (or a similar being)? Just that one species evolved a bit further - or better say, in a specific direction - is no proof at all. It's highly probable by the rules of evolution! No need for god.
It is true, that something special is going on on earth when compared to other planets. But this can all be linked to the conditions here on earth, which are a consequence of our position in the solar system. That these things happened somewhere in the universe is highly likely anyway - no need for a god for sure.

If for example the dolphins would have evolved further, they would maybe also make up religions (maybe they even do) and think they are the chosen ones.

So, I think there is no need discussing the "specialness" of mankind as it is not linked to the existence of a god at all.
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RE: Evidence God Exists
(April 27, 2010 at 2:23 am)Atheist_named_Christian Wrote: If for example the dolphins would have evolved further, they would maybe also make up religions (maybe they even do) and think they are the chosen ones.

So, I think there is no need discussing the "specialness" of mankind as it is not linked to the existence of a god at all.

But we could have then had holy wars with the Dolphins arguing over whose God was the one true god...
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RE: Evidence God Exists
(April 27, 2010 at 4:38 am)Loki_999 Wrote: But we could have then had holy wars with the Dolphins arguing over whose God was the one true god...

Or whose god is the more peaceful one …
   
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