Pro-life atheists

[Losty]

Well....we are guilty of using the actual definition instead of making up our own, if that's what you mean.

A time will come when a human being can be conceived and develop all the way into adulthood without the need of a mother. The notion of viability outside the womb is arbitrary and becoming more and more meaningless.

Oh so now we are just pretending like you never lied about the meaning of the word viability?

Ok then, if that time comes then fetuses conceived naturally can still be aborted in any circumstances that relocation to an incubator is not feasible, so long as that fetus is not viable.

[Chas]

Well....we are guilty of using the actual definition instead of making up our own, if that's what you mean.

A time will come when a human being can be conceived and develop all the way into adulthood without the need of a mother. The notion of viability outside the womb is arbitrary and becoming more and more meaningless.

Wrong. The fetus will still need to be hooked up to whatever that apparatus is until it is separately viable. It is exactly the same situation.

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It's getting a little pathetic Heywood. Be a grown up, admit that you're being dishonest about the definition of viability, and go back to one of your other ridiculous arguments. I for one quite enjoyed the whole abortion is never necesarry to save a woman's life because I don't believe that argument.

You still haven't provided one case where a late term abortion was the only option. That lady you says knows of cases but can't tell us because of patient privacy is BS argument. She doesn't need to tell use who the patient is/was.....all she needs to do is say this specific condition cannot be treated except via a late term abortion.

Yes or no: Is a fertilized egg a human being?

[Heywood]

A time will come when a human being can be conceived and develop all the way into adulthood without the need of a mother. The notion of viability outside the womb is arbitrary and becoming more and more meaningless.

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You still haven't provided one case where a late term abortion was the only option. That lady you says knows of cases but can't tell us because of patient privacy is BS argument. She doesn't need to tell use who the patient is/was.....all she needs to do is say this specific condition cannot be treated except via a late term abortion.

Yes or no: Is a fertilized egg a human being?

chASS,

An embryo is a human being.

[Chas]

Yes or no: Is a fertilized egg a human being?

chASS,

An embryo is a human being.

Is a fertilized egg a human being?

[Losty]

It's getting a little pathetic Heywood. Be a grown up, admit that you're being dishonest about the definition of viability, and go back to one of your other ridiculous arguments. I for one quite enjoyed the whole abortion is never necesarry to save a woman's life because I don't believe that argument.

You still haven't provided one case where a late term abortion was the only option. That lady you says knows of cases but can't tell us because of patient privacy is BS argument. She doesn't need to tell us who the patient is/was.....all she needs to do is say this specific condition cannot be treated except via a late term abortion.

Really? I don't fucking know her. I quoted a statement she made to a news reporter. I never said she couldn't give an example because of privacy. I made a facetious remark about hopping over to wherever she is and requesting the specific cases.

Pre e is a real reason why women need late term abortions. Do you even know what pre e is? Or what can happen if you don't get immediate treatment? You cannot always induce labor when a woman's life is on the line. Guess what happens during labor? Your blood pressure goes up! Guess what happens when you have pre e and your blood pressure keeps going up? You die!
Do you think inducing labor means pressing a button and a baby magically pops out? No. It is unpredictable and can take hours or even days.

Ps. I did in fact notice that you changed the subject from viability after being called out.

[Heywood]

chASS,

An embryo is a human being.

Is a fertilized egg a human being?

A fertilized egg is a zygote. A zygote is an organism. If it is a human zygote, then that organism is a human being.

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You still haven't provided one case where a late term abortion was the only option. That lady you says knows of cases but can't tell us because of patient privacy is BS argument. She doesn't need to tell us who the patient is/was.....all she needs to do is say this specific condition cannot be treated except via a late term abortion.

Really? I don't fucking know her. I quoted a statement she made to a news reporter. I never said she couldn't give an example because of privacy. I made a facetious remark about hopping over to wherever she is and requesting the specific cases.

Pre e is a real reason why women need late term abortions. Do you even know what pre e is? Or what can happen if you don't get immediate treatment? You cannot always induce labor when a woman's life is on the line. Guess what happens during labor? Your blood pressure goes up! Guess what happens when you have pre e and your blood pressure keeps going up? You die!
Do you think inducing labor means pressing a button and a baby magically pops out? No. It is unpredictable and can take hours or even days.

Ps. I did in fact notice that you changed the subject from viability after being called out.

Treatment for late term Pre-eclampsia is delivery. Abortion is only necessary when the mother doesn't want deal with a baby.

[Chas]

You have backed yourself into a corner here, BlowJob.

Be honest, admit you are wrong, and move on.

Wrong about what? Viability as a rationale to determine which human beings can be killed and which can't is nonsense. None of us are viable.

"As of 1999, current medical technology does not allow an embryo to survive outside the uterus under any circumstances, or to be transplanted from the uterus of one woman to that of another.[16] A human embryo is therefore not considered viable."

You can't just redefine words to suit yourself, you dishonest twit.

[Whateverist]

Yes or no: Is a fertilized egg a human being?

chASS,

An embryo is a human being.

Strickly speaking HeyNoWood, any carbon molecule is potentially human material.

[Losty]

Is a fertilized egg a human being?

A fertilized egg is a zygote. A zygote is an organism. If it is a human zygote, then that organism is a human being.

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Really? I don't fucking know her. I quoted a statement she made to a news reporter. I never said she couldn't give an example because of privacy. I made a facetious remark about hopping over to wherever she is and requesting the specific cases.

Pre e is a real reason why women need late term abortions. Do you even know what pre e is? Or what can happen if you don't get immediate treatment? You cannot always induce labor when a woman's life is on the line. Guess what happens during labor? Your blood pressure goes up! Guess what happens when you have pre e and your blood pressure keeps going up? You die!
Do you think inducing labor means pressing a button and a baby magically pops out? No. It is unpredictable and can take hours or even days.

Ps. I did in fact notice that you changed the subject from viability after being called out.

Treatment for late term Pre-eclampsia is delivery. Abortion is only necessary when the mother doesn't want deal with a baby.

You know what, that is a sick horrible bullshit thing to say. Abortion is always necesarry in emergency situations of pre e, unless the mother enjoys having a stroke. Fuck you.

[Heywood]

chASS,

An embryo is a human being.

Strickly speaking HeyNoWood, any carbon molecule is potentially human material.

Negative,

Any carbon molecule is not an organism.

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A fertilized egg is a zygote. A zygote is an organism. If it is a human zygote, then that organism is a human being.

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Treatment for late term Pre-eclampsia is delivery. Abortion is only necessary when the mother doesn't want deal with a baby.

You know what, that is a sick horrible bullshit thing to say. Abortion is always necesarry in emergency situations of pre e, unless the mother enjoys having a stroke. Fuck you.

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