And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.

[Chad32]

I like Darkmatter 2525. Too bad he doesn't update daily, or close to it.

[GrandizerII]

but what are you risking?

An eternity is a long time.

I don't know what the risks are. And I don't have access to any evidence showing that I should consider those risks. Furthermore, what God and what eternity are we speaking of here? Allah? Eternity in Janneh or Jouhannam?

Provide evidence and then we can discuss the risks. Otherwise, there's no point in living life as if God exists.

[Artur Axmann]

but what are you risking?

An eternity is a long time.

I don't know what the risks are. And I don't have access to any evidence showing that I should consider those risks. Furthermore, what God and what eternity are we speaking of here? Allah? Eternity in Janneh or Jouhannam?

Provide evidence and then we can discuss the risks. Otherwise, there's no point in living life as if God exists.

O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

What have you really GAINED?

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

[Bad Wolf]

O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

What have you really GAINED?

The truth of something is irrelevant to gains or losses. It just is...

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

And what if you are wrong. Have you ever considered all the other hells of all the other religions out there? Of course not, typical Christian arrogance.

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

I would love to see some statistics on that, unless you are pulling that out of your ass?

[GrandizerII]

I don't know what the risks are. And I don't have access to any evidence showing that I should consider those risks. Furthermore, what God and what eternity are we speaking of here? Allah? Eternity in Janneh or Jouhannam?

Provide evidence and then we can discuss the risks. Otherwise, there's no point in living life as if God exists.

O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

What have you really GAINED?

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

I gain a lot by sticking to what the evidence alone tells me as I don't have to restrict how I live according to ideas for which there is no evidence anyway.

I see no reason to live my life going regularly to church and singing praises to Jesus for the same reason I see no reason going to the mosque to pray to Allah. Nor do I see a reason to avoid certain foods/practices/activities purely for religious purposes. The evidence is lacking. So why should I restrict my life for something that's far from probable and knowing that it doesn't even necessarily have to be the God you claim to follow(I see you did not address this part of my argument)?

You speak of odds. Well, great. The odds are extremely low that heaven or hell exist anyway. And I'm actually being generous by not arguing that it's impossible for heaven or hell to exist.

[rexbeccarox]

Hellloooooooo???? Have you read about Pascal's Wager yet, Artur?

I'm just gonna keep replying to myself here until Artur acknowledges whether he's read up on Pascal or not.

Artur! I see you're back! Have you read about Pascal's Wager yet?

[Rampant.A.I.]

I don't know what the risks are. And I don't have access to any evidence showing that I should consider those risks. Furthermore, what God and what eternity are we speaking of here? Allah? Eternity in Janneh or Jouhannam?

Provide evidence and then we can discuss the risks. Otherwise, there's no point in living life as if God exists.

O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

What have you really GAINED?

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

Gains: Not having to deal with people like you every Sunday for a lifetime.

Losses: Fear of imaginary consequences, and of fear-driven ethics like you cowards who are only moral for fear daddy will beat them.

[Artur Axmann]

O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

What have you really GAINED?

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

I gain a lot by sticking to what the evidence alone tells me as I don't have to restrict how I live according to ideas for which there is no evidence anyway.

I see no reason to live my life going regularly to church and singing praises to Jesus for the same reason I see no reason going to the mosque to pray to Allah. Nor do I see a reason to avoid certain foods/practices/activities purely for religious purposes. The evidence is lacking. So why should I restrict my life for something that's far from probable and knowing that it doesn't even necessarily have to be the God you claim to follow(I see you did not address this part of my argument)?

You speak of odds. Well, great. The odds are extremely low that heaven or hell exist anyway. And I'm actually being generous by not arguing that it's impossible for heaven or hell to exist.

but you don't explain: what exactly are you restricting yourself of ..

What are you being asked to give up?

Nothing!!

Most atheists are not really atheists but are looking for something to justify something society looks at as abnormal.

Atheism provides that psychic cover .. at some point when the abnormality eases or goes away entirely then they start becoming more intellectually active and this is where we hear of deathbed conversions.

[Angrboda]

O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

Okay. Many Hindus like me believe that being Christian or Muslim "just in case" will condemn you to an eternity of suffering being reborn in Samsara and never becoming enlightened.

What have you really GAINED?

I come one step closer to release from ignorance.

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

You face an eternity of suffering for being wrong and not being a Hindu, so, no difference there.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

Which you've monumentally erred in calculating. Turns out, you have as much reason to become a Hindu.

Are you going to become a Hindu... in case you're wrong?

[Cyberman]

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

Why should I, as an atheist, face the prospect of eternal pain and misery purely for not having believed?

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

I call bullshit. Actually, I call nullshit, because even if this were a true observation it would prove nothing.