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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 5:25 am
As I've said before, I'm sure I learned from somewhere that Pascal came up with his wager in order to satirise the whole belief thing and it's just stuck; similar to Fred Hoyle's coining of the term Big Bang out of parody doong more to popularise the concept in the public mind than the physics ever could. So, believers, how's it feel to be trolled by the very guy you're citing as an authority on why we should believe?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 10:18 am
Because they have "nothing to lose" if they're wrong. Forgetting all the time, money, and friends that they otherwise could have had without religion.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 10:23 am
(June 4, 2014 at 10:18 am)Chad32 Wrote: Because they have "nothing to lose" if they're wrong. Forgetting all the time, money, and friends that they otherwise could have had without religion.
. . . not to mention a modicum of intellectual integrity.
RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 6:02 pm (This post was last modified: June 4, 2014 at 6:05 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(May 31, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.
How many deathbed conversions? How do you know? Is this anecdotal? If so, name names.
(May 31, 2014 at 4:06 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: we can dismiss all other world religions ,including anamist and all the cults through the process of elimination.
the other religions can't even come close to addressing the spiritual needs of an individual and even on the basis of rational thought.
no other religion can do this but Christianity ; and at the same time further the progression of culture and civilization.
sorry bout that, muslims and scientologists , and cow dung consumers
and all you sweet loving compassionate voodoo haitians go back to the hell hole you came from.
Do you even know the difference between assertions and arguments?
RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 6:05 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 6:02 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.
How many deathbed conversions? How do you know? Is this anecdotal? If so, name names.
I've sat with people who were dying, both atheists and believers, and I've never witnessed a deathbed conversion. Such claims are just another lie and misinformation from the religious.
RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 6:13 pm (This post was last modified: June 4, 2014 at 6:23 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(May 31, 2014 at 6:13 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: you're dreaming..
are you saying all the billions of believers in the world have no dignity?
and have wasted their valuable time . Time that can't be held on to..
What have you done with all your time . in excess of spent beliefs.
Are all the billions in the world stupid and you're the brilliant one?
How many people agree with you does not have a bearing on whether you're wrong or right. If there were six billion atheists, it wouldn't make it any more or less likely that God is real, but using that for an argument that she's right would be an indication the atheist doesn't know any strong arguments.
(May 31, 2014 at 7:34 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 7:06 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: Careful handling those stats and be sure to wash up afterward. I think we all know where they came from.
wikipedia
He was talking about your claim about many deathbed conversions of atheists, not the Norway thing. Try to keep up.
(June 4, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(June 4, 2014 at 6:02 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: How many deathbed conversions? How do you know? Is this anecdotal? If so, name names.
I've sat with people who were dying, both atheists and believers, and I've never witnessed a deathbed conversion. Such claims are just another lie and misinformation from the religious.
I volunteer at hospice sometimes, and I'm in great demand as the guy who won't pester you about your soul. I swear, what some of the Christian volunteers do amounts to harassment of the dying.
RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 6:23 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 6:13 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(May 31, 2014 at 6:13 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: you're dreaming..
are you saying all the billions of believers in the world have no dignity?
and have wasted their valuable time . Time that can't be held on to..
What have you done with all your time . in excess of spent beliefs.
Are all the billions in the world stupid and you're the brilliant one?
How many people agree with you does not have a bearing on whether you're wrong or right. If there were six billion atheists, it wouldn't make it any more or less likely that God is real, but using that for an argument that she's right would be an indication the atheist doesn't know any strong arguments.
(May 31, 2014 at 7:34 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: wikipedia
He was talking about your claim about many deathbed conversions of atheists, not the Norway thing. Try to keep up.
RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
June 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm
Quote:The satirical fantasy writer Terry Pratchett had a version of Pascal's Wager in his book titled Small Gods: "Upon his death, the philosopher in question found himself surrounded by a group of angry gods with clubs. The last thing he heard was 'We're going to show you how we deal with Mister Clever Dick around here. . .'"
