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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Moving the goalposts yet again, as you introduced an NDE as "evidence of an afterlife," and are now saying no NDE is evidence, to distract from the fact that you claimed "there is no personal revelation" because you forgot IT'S IN THE BIBLE you apparently haven't gotten around to reading.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 2, 2014 at 8:34 pm)snowtracks Wrote: nde has nothing to do about an afterlife.

If for the wrong reasons, congrats on finally being right about something. It only too 1,180 posts, too.

Good job.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
the moon is a necessity for advanced life on earth, yes necessity. when evidence of creation is confronted, this is one way to handle it. "Current theories on the formation of the Moon owe too much to cosmic coincidences, says Robin Canup. " http://www.nature.com/news/planetary-sci...es-1.14270
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 5, 2014 at 12:43 am)snowtracks Wrote: the moon is a necessity for advanced life on earth, yes necessity. when evidence of creation is confronted, this is one way to handle it. "Current theories on the formation of the Moon owe too much to cosmic coincidences, says Robin Canup. " http://www.nature.com/news/planetary-sci...es-1.14270

How do you know that life on earth couldn't appear and become "advanced" without a moon? Do you know every possible method by which life could form, and every possible set of conditions through which life can exist?

No? Then I guess you've got no basis for claiming that the moon is a "necessity," do you? Dodgy
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 5, 2014 at 12:43 am)snowtracks Wrote: the moon is a necessity for advanced life on earth, yes necessity. when evidence of creation is confronted, this is one way to handle it. "Current theories on the formation of the Moon owe too much to cosmic coincidences, says Robin Canup. " http://www.nature.com/news/planetary-sci...es-1.14270

Cool article. My favorite part was how the terms "god", "created/creator/creation", "Bible/Biblical", "design" (with or without a preceding "intelligent"), several common variations of "Jesus/Christ", and "Christian/ity" are entirely absent from it. I was a bit nervous on the last one, but it turned out to be a mention of chromium isotopes.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 5, 2014 at 12:43 am)snowtracks Wrote: the moon is a necessity for advanced life on earth, yes necessity. when evidence of creation is confronted, this is one way to handle it. "Current theories on the formation of the Moon owe too much to cosmic coincidences, says Robin Canup. " http://www.nature.com/news/planetary-sci...es-1.14270
That's fairly hypocritical of you to say. This is not evidence of creation. It is evidence that science progresses because it is willing to challenge existing knowledge and understanding in light of new discoveries or even just in light of a new approach to a problem. If scientists had been unwilling to challenge the work of other scientists in this manner, they'd be practicing religion, not science.

Articles like the one you link are written because scientists learn enough to change or overthrow a theory, or because a scientist decides to challenge conventional thinking or theories. In the realm of science, that gets you published in a peer-reviewed journal and your work comes under scrutiny. In the realm of religion, that gets you killed and your work gets destroyed.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 5, 2014 at 5:49 am)Tonus Wrote:
(June 5, 2014 at 12:43 am)snowtracks Wrote: the moon is a necessity for advanced life on earth, yes necessity. when evidence of creation is confronted, this is one way to handle it. "Current theories on the formation of the Moon owe too much to cosmic coincidences, says Robin Canup. " http://www.nature.com/news/planetary-sci...es-1.14270
That's fairly hypocritical of you to say. This is not evidence of creation. It is evidence that science progresses because it is willing to challenge existing knowledge and understanding in light of new discoveries or even just in light of a new approach to a problem. If scientists had been unwilling to challenge the work of other scientists in this manner, they'd be practicing religion, not science.

Articles like the one you link are written because scientists learn enough to change or overthrow a theory, or because a scientist decides to challenge conventional thinking or theories. In the realm of science, that gets you published in a peer-reviewed journal and your work comes under scrutiny. In the realm of religion, that gets you killed and your work gets destroyed.

That's why you can't win with morons like ST here.

Science accepts a theory and it isn't challenged? Well, the theory is as dogmatic as any religious text!

Science challenges a theory with new or contradictory evidence (eg. The scientific method)? Well science is wrong and so if this one theory is wrong IT'S ALL WRONG!

Stupidity at its finest.
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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 5, 2014 at 6:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(June 5, 2014 at 5:49 am)Tonus Wrote: That's fairly hypocritical of you to say. This is not evidence of creation. It is evidence that science progresses because it is willing to challenge existing knowledge and understanding in light of new discoveries or even just in light of a new approach to a problem. If scientists had been unwilling to challenge the work of other scientists in this manner, they'd be practicing religion, not science.

Articles like the one you link are written because scientists learn enough to change or overthrow a theory, or because a scientist decides to challenge conventional thinking or theories. In the realm of science, that gets you published in a peer-reviewed journal and your work comes under scrutiny. In the realm of religion, that gets you killed and your work gets destroyed.

That's why you can't win with morons like ST here.

Science accepts a theory and it isn't challenged? Well, the theory is as dogmatic as any religious text!

Science challenges a theory with new or contradictory evidence (eg. The scientific method)? Well science is wrong and so if this one theory is wrong IT'S ALL WRONG!

Stupidity at its finest.

This right here.

http://vserver1.cscs.lsa.umich.edu/~crshalizi/White/

"Heretic! Kill him! Heretics, kill them! Too many heretics -- Change the dogma, this is all part of God's plan!"
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 5, 2014 at 6:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Science challenges a theory with new or contradictory evidence (eg. The scientific method)? Well science is wrong and so if this one theory is wrong IT'S ALL WRONG!

If that one theory is wrong, then the Christian creation myth has been proven right!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(June 5, 2014 at 6:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Science challenges a theory with new or contradictory evidence (eg. The scientific method)? Well science is wrong and so if this one theory is wrong IT'S ALL WRONG!

Stupidity at its finest.

Which is strange, when you think about it, for a group of people whose beliefs have split thousands of times over the years into increasingly fractured and minutiae driven denominations, to point at science changing and finding wrong with itself before moving on to the new thing, and declaring it a weakness that proves it's all incorrect. Thinking
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