So is rape reeeally wrong?

[DeistPaladin]

The guy is probably a Repub.

They just can't stop themselves from opening their mouths about this topic, can they?

Perhaps we should be thankful for their compulsive honesty about this subject.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Generally speaking they, as a group, seem to be suffering from mental illness. Based on events around the world it's a mistake to let them run wild and spew their B.S. Check out some of the crazies from Osteen to the Oregon shooter to the insane Okie who wants to stone homosexuals to death.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Generally speaking they, as a group, seem to be suffering from mental illness. Based on events around the world it's a mistake to let them run wild and spew their B.S. Check out some of the crazies from Osteen to the Oregon shooter to the insane Okie who wants to stone homosexuals to death.

[RobbyPants]

They just can't stop themselves from opening their mouths about this topic, can they?

Perhaps we should be thankful for their compulsive honesty about this subject.

Yeah, I don't know what it is about them having such a hard time not using their outside voice on the subject.

[vorlon13]

Sigh,


I suppose if there was a god of some sort, and it had the right sense of humor, Derek Isaacs might find himself buggered by drunk college football players some dark and stormy night.

And then we might see how his views on rape evolve over time.

[Brian37]

This is the same twisting of words that these morons do with "law" and "theory".

Yes, rape does work because evolution doesn't care how you spread your genes. That however does not mean our species lacks empathy or that we default to rape. Tornados are natural too, but that does not mean we like them affecting us. It just means it is part of nature.

Secondly this fuckwad doesn't understand that evolution does not treat male DNA at the point of conception as more important than female DNA. It still takes TWO sets of DNA to manifest into a baby, so neither is more important than the other.

What makes rape bad is the psychological and physical harm to the other person it is done to because humans also evolved with EMPATHY.

Rape has nothing to do even with sexuality, although because of religion it turns the act into the fault of girls and women and places the blame on them instead of the criminal.

Men rape men, men rape boys, men rape girls, men rape women, and even women rape each other. Rape is about power and control. Just like we know what causes a hurricane. Understanding the the destructive side of nature or our species does not need superstition to understand in order to minimize the harm it can do.

The best way to prevent rape is to know how a perp picks their victim, what their own abuse and upbringing or addictions might have lead them to it, but most importantly BLAME THE PERP and not the victim. No comic book needed to do what is right.

The patriarchal nature of ancient comic books however treats girls and women like property which unfortunately is still a roadblock to preventing rape.

[No_God]

Does this dickweed know what bodily integrity and sexual autonomy is?

He's trying to disprove evolution by making us feel bad about rape in the animal kingdom?

[ShaMan]

The answer is a resounding... YES!

[Mudhammam]

When ChadW asks "but why is it wrong" it seems he means "why shouldn't one do it" rather than "why is it we've come to this widely held belief that it is wrong to do so". The actual origins of moral phenomena - the answer to the "how did it come to be" question - doesn't, as DeistP so ably explained, carry any ought.

But neither does its natural origins erase the ought. Likewise we don't stop enjoying bacon or sex once we come to understand the functional origins of those desires. Moral considerations aren't really that different than other motivational forces. They just plug into something very deeply rooted in our psyches. Our connection to family and to tribe - and therefore anything which might sever that connection - will trigger all those raw compulsive feelings involving love, honor and duty.

Rationality doesn't sit apart from the body deciding abstractly what is required, permitted or forbidden. Apart from all those raw compulsive feelings, there are no ends for rationality to work toward. Reasoned systems of how best to serve our many impulses to care for and earn the respect of the tribe, never replace the role of those base desires.

To quote Sam Harris, with whom I fully agree here:

"Ethics is prescriptive only because we tend to talk about it that way—and I believe this emphasis comes, in large part, from the stultifying influence of Abrahamic religion. We could just as well think about ethics descriptively. Certain experiences, relationships, social institutions, and technological developments are possible—and there are more or less direct ways to arrive at them. Again, we have a navigation problem. To say we “should” follow some of these paths and avoid others is just a way of saying that some lead to happiness and others to misery. “You shouldn’t lie” (prescriptive) is synonymous with “Lying needlessly complicates people’s lives, destroys reputations, and undermines trust” (descriptive). “We should defend democracy from totalitarianism” (prescriptive) is another way of saying “Democracy is far more conducive to human flourishing than the alternatives are” (descriptive). In my view, moralizing notions like “should” and “ought” are just ways of indicating that certain experiences and states of being are better than others."

[vorlon13]

I also note, Derek has a purty mouth.