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he knows im right, but is still a christian?
#41
RE: he knows im right, but is still a christian?
Well first of all I'd like to point out that if you are a good friend you won't try to change your best friends and you must accept them for who they are. Secondly, as an agnostic atheist I don't reall see the point of evolution and the big bang, since most Christians I know (and priests) support both theories with enthusiasm and they often search for compatibility between Christianity and scientific theories/facts.

Regarding the contradictory characteristics between gods, this is a good point you made, but most likely it won't be enough to make your friend quit faith. My bet is, if you are a good friend, to keep being so regardless of belief, don't try to change your friends view. Sincerely, an atheist dating a Christian. I hope I helped
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#42
RE: he knows im right, but is still a christian?
(June 28, 2014 at 1:57 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(June 25, 2014 at 9:18 pm)ThomM Wrote: There are lots of examples of how faith and knowledge can in fact co-exist.
Example - the allied armies of WWII - where people of all faiths coexisted and
cooperated in a more important common cause.

And People in many large Multi- National companies - co-exist with others of other faiths - because the Job is more important than their religion - or it may be that religion is defined by the company as a non-issue to begin with.

But - in the end - you can have friends and co-exist with people of all different faiths -or non faiths - simply because you recognize that most people are not defined by their religion.

My grandmother had a saying - there are two type of people in the world - good ones - and bad ones - and you cannot tell just by looking at them which they are. I lived in a town where most of the people I lived near - were of another faith (They were Jewish - I was not) - and we got along because we learned that this didn't matter.

I don't believe you understand the discussion, read the example I posted about faith vs knowledge.

Oh - I understood the discussion

The problem is - when it comes to religion - the most basic claims - the supernatural ones - are ALL faith - and have nothing to do with Knowledge. None can be proven to have any real validity. So - religion does not co-exist with knowledge - at all. IT isn't proven to be Knowledge.

So - I moved the discussion to where it might have validity.
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#43
RE: he knows im right, but is still a christian?
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Here’s my two cents anyways…

Whatever happens just let him know that his friendship is worth keeping. I have atheist friends from school, and we talk about these sorts of things but I always being with, “you know I care about you, right? Mind if we talk about X?”

“People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.”
- John Maxwell
Call me Josh, it's fine.
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#44
RE: he knows im right, but is still a christian?
Emotional extortion eh? Effective.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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