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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 20, 2014 at 8:26 pm
(August 20, 2014 at 8:22 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Yes, when I'm king of the world, I shall rule over the women of the land and eat sushi upon their naked bodies!
On pasta night I will just use a bowl. Too messy otherwise.
I was with you until the sushi!
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 20, 2014 at 10:07 pm
You know beccs, I used to say the same thing. But now, addicted to the stuff.
Going to get some tomorrow evening in fact.
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 20, 2014 at 10:44 pm
(August 20, 2014 at 10:07 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: You know beccs, I used to say the same thing. But now, addicted to the stuff.
Going to get some tomorrow evening in fact.
Tried it a couple of times and really didn't like it. Might try it again.
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 21, 2014 at 7:17 am
(May 24, 2012 at 8:31 pm)Shell B Wrote: Oh, I'm well aware a "fair world" is nothing more than a quaint notion. Of course, it is okay to work towards ideals and get as close to them as possible.
The goalposts of what is ideal are constantly changing too. But I think everything eventually finds its own level, as long as people are allowed the freedom to think and act for themselves. Shell B, I find I like your posts, you talk sense.
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It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 21, 2014 at 10:03 am
Isn't she married to Tiberius? Is that how you spell it?
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 21, 2014 at 10:16 am
(May 24, 2012 at 5:03 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Scriptures, and other myth’s, say that God determined that men should rule over women. This gives form, --- in a demographic sense, ---- to our common and society, and says that our demographic pyramid should have a hierarchical shape and or form. This initiates tension and has God demonizing woman, as well as any notion of female equality with man.
His motive must be for the good of women. Somehow!
After all, sanctity of the family is one of the main points of morality.
God was arguably right for his time. Think in the barbaric way. Below the belt. Thank God that time is almost past. Women in our modern world do not need man’s dubious ape like help. I hope you agree. Be honest now with yourself be you male or female.
Men have dominated women long enough I think. To give them equality would be justice.
What do you think?
What would real men do?
What would real women demand?
Do men and women have what it takes to be free?
Justice under law should be gender and age neutral, with limits, but with a good spirit of assuring equality. We do not administer that justice. We only give it lip service. Men are not walking their talk. Neither are women.
In Gods timocracy, a place of government in which love of honor is the ruling principle. All honors go to the Queen and her children. A king’s first responsibility is to insure the veneration of his queen. Honor demands it. He accepts this burden and pleasure wisely. The Queen, as the Beta archetype is the life of the kingdom. The archetypal king’s duty is to raise woman’s position. That means that all men have the same duty. That of not denying women equality and elevating her.
Men. Be good kings. You are making good just men look bad. Step up.
God wills it.
Women. Be good queens and demand what is yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVC...r_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iMBUoxLOmA
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I'm not sure if you've noticed but we don't live in a world of knights and maidens any more.
'It's always been that way historically so it must be better' is a most flaccid argument for anything.
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 21, 2014 at 12:33 pm
(August 21, 2014 at 10:03 am)Losty Wrote: Isn't she married to Tiberius? Is that how you spell it?
I know that. I figured she would probably realise I am joking.
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 21, 2014 at 12:52 pm
(August 21, 2014 at 12:33 pm)vodkafan Wrote: I know that. I figured she would probably realise I am joking. And then she'd beat you to death with a metal pipe anyway.
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 21, 2014 at 1:01 pm
I've renounced any rulership rights to which I may be entitled just to be on the safe side.
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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 21, 2014 at 2:07 pm
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(August 19, 2014 at 11:41 pm)Beccs Wrote: Yeah, the bible says that.
The bible states all sorts of bullshit.
Men and women are both humans and should have equal rights.
That should be obvious to any decent human.
Yet most mainstream religions do not have equal rights and fail at common decency.
He shall rule over you is a part of their theology.
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(August 20, 2014 at 12:43 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: (May 24, 2012 at 5:03 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: What would real men do? 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.
Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
So as long as a woman never demands equality, her husband is to treat her as equal but the moment she asks to be treated equal, in church for instance, then he shall rule over you comes into play.
And you see women putting up with that do you?
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DL
(August 21, 2014 at 10:16 am)ManMachine Wrote: (May 24, 2012 at 5:03 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Scriptures, and other myth’s, say that God determined that men should rule over women. This gives form, --- in a demographic sense, ---- to our common and society, and says that our demographic pyramid should have a hierarchical shape and or form. This initiates tension and has God demonizing woman, as well as any notion of female equality with man.
His motive must be for the good of women. Somehow!
After all, sanctity of the family is one of the main points of morality.
God was arguably right for his time. Think in the barbaric way. Below the belt. Thank God that time is almost past. Women in our modern world do not need man’s dubious ape like help. I hope you agree. Be honest now with yourself be you male or female.
Men have dominated women long enough I think. To give them equality would be justice.
What do you think?
What would real men do?
What would real women demand?
Do men and women have what it takes to be free?
Justice under law should be gender and age neutral, with limits, but with a good spirit of assuring equality. We do not administer that justice. We only give it lip service. Men are not walking their talk. Neither are women.
In Gods timocracy, a place of government in which love of honor is the ruling principle. All honors go to the Queen and her children. A king’s first responsibility is to insure the veneration of his queen. Honor demands it. He accepts this burden and pleasure wisely. The Queen, as the Beta archetype is the life of the kingdom. The archetypal king’s duty is to raise woman’s position. That means that all men have the same duty. That of not denying women equality and elevating her.
Men. Be good kings. You are making good just men look bad. Step up.
God wills it.
Women. Be good queens and demand what is yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVC...r_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iMBUoxLOmA
Regards
DL
I'm not sure if you've noticed but we don't live in a world of knights and maidens any more.
'It's always been that way historically so it must be better' is a most flaccid argument for anything.
To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, if the thought of being a slave is abhorrent to you then do not harbour thoughts of being a master.
MM
You are correct. Men have forgotten their duty to family and any Knight would be ashamed to be seen with most so called men.
Not enough real men who recognize their duty is the reason women are not equal.
Regards
DL
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