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"God's" Way Of Saying
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Evil comes from the mind of man!
Fuck, when are people going to start taking responsibility for their own actions... We practically invented god so we can blame him instead for everything.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  (September 18, 2014 at 1:06 am)Breakable Wrote: well, why are you so mad? of they were as honest and chrostian as the news says they are, theyre enjoying beers in heaven right now. Who said I'm mad? Also, my religious views say "atheist" for a reason: I don't believe there is a heaven, or a god. But if someone does, then I think all of this "don't blame god, blame X, Y, and Z!" stuff is merely a weak assertion to cover for god's moral culpability in actions that, under christian theology, he not only arranged, but could control. Oh, and they also could have gone to heaven after enjoying a full life here on earth. That's also a possibility. God just decided to have them murdered, for some reason, if you're a christian.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 18, 2014 at 6:12 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2014 at 6:12 am by fr0d0.)
Yes. They were obviously illegally killed by the deliberate collapsing of a building! No one ever dies because their time is up. And we should all be living for ever anyway.
- Perturbed of Chipping Norton 
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Junior Member  Religious Views: Ask yourself what would Jesus do? Would he wear socks with sandals? No. (September 18, 2014 at 1:00 am)Breakable Wrote: dont blame god, blame the structure in the building. blame the poor conditions of the land. blame the weather. blame the science, not the religion But isn't your belief that God determines everything that happens? So whichever way you cut it your God decided those people should die. If God decided your airplane will be hit by a missile or go off course and be lost in the sea that's what will happen. So what's the point in praying to a God that doesn't care if you live or die? You love that God? 
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
It's clear that God is racist.
(September 18, 2014 at 6:12 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Yes. They were obviously illegally killed by the deliberate collapsing of a building! No one ever dies because their time is up. And we should all be living for ever anyway. If a god is moral, and can prevent suffering, then there is simply no reason why anyone should ever die in pain. Just let them die in their sleep that night. What's so crazy about that? What about asking that a being not deliberately arrange for people to suffer for no reason is simply too much to ask?
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I've never been sold on the idea that people - or any living thing, actually - have a predetermined time span, a sell-by date which expires the moment they do regardless of circumstances. Someone dying as a result of running out of life is one thing; perishing in an accident or similar disaster that overtakes the body is completely another. It would make anything we do pretty much pointless, since we're fated to die at a specific time. So the idiot who gets behind the wheel practically flammable with alcohol is merely an agent of fate for everyone involved. Nothing they can do about it. Miss your bus so you end up still standing there when drunken idiot careers around the corner and ploughs into the queue? It was your time to die. No, you don't get a refund.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (September 18, 2014 at 1:06 am)Breakable Wrote: well, why are you so mad? of they were as honest and chrostian as the news says they are, theyre enjoying beers in heaven right now.Only if god exists, and is the specific version that they worshiped, and only if they met his standards for heaven. Unless "getting crushed by a church" is some sort of get-out-of-hell-free card. And of course, only if "the news" knew them well enough so that their characterization of them was accurate, as opposed to the implication that by being at church, they were being good Christians.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  (September 18, 2014 at 1:00 am)Breakable Wrote: dont blame god, blame the structure in the building. blame the poor conditions of the land. blame the weather. blame the science, not the religionSee, there's one of the problems we have. Something good happens, thank God. Something bad happens, not God's fault. Why are the reverse never applied? 
Largely because believers are full of shit, LL.
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